Why I Won't Return To Bar One
A Grant Park resident recounts a birthday celebration that turned out to be less-than-expected when her party was told they couldn't stay longer than 2 hours, unless they bought a $275 bottle of liquor.
by Sharon Hudson
I've been a resident of the Grant Park community for seven years now. I've seen several businesses at Bar One's location come and go, and I was hoping, that as a minority-owned business, it would have staying power.
Unfortunately when you shun customers on their first evening in your establishment, I no longer have the expectation you will be a viable business in our community. A little back-story follows which hopefully will explain the context of my angst and disappointment.
My (younger) cousin chose Bar One in which to celebrate his 38th birthday. I wouldn't normally list an age, but this is to show that we are people of maturity and means. He called prior to confirming with his guests to see what was required to reserve a table and was told that we must be in the door by 9:30 to get a table. He was told that there were no reservations taken/filled for tables after 10 p.m. He further inquired if there were any other stipulations or guidelines that he and his guests should be aware of prior to coming. He was not informed of any additional requirements.
The type of person that I am, I called to find out for myself the next day and was told the same thing and again, I wasn't even asked for an e-mail address. I didn't feel at that time it was necessary for me to document to whom I had spoken, considering the information was consistent from call to call.
He and his guest arrived on time and were seated. I arrived a few minutes later and located him and was seated. Other guests — around 15 people total — filed in and our enjoyable night began. Justin was our server throughout. Guests ordered their own individual food and drink items, and several of us had multiple drinks. People also ordered drinks specifically for my cousin in honor of his birthday. My cousin ordered food, drink, a bottle of wine and a round of Patron shots for his guests.
I say all this to say that individual tabs weren't for insignificant amounts, they averaged $50-plus. Imagine my shock when Justin came over and started handing out individual checks. I took this as an affront, specifically asking Justin if we were being asked to leave for some reason. It was then he said that we were only allowed to stay for 2 hours and we had been there in excess of that time. I asked him if we were allowed to order more food and drink if we could stay, and he again reiterated the 2-hour time limit. It was at this point I asked to speak with a manager.
Other guests were asking questions, my cousin was asking questions, but I've always been the type to "handle things" so I told everyone to continue to enjoy their evening. Justin came back to us and said that the manager said that was policy and that if we wanted to stay we had to buy a bottle of liquor. I inquired as to the cost and was told it was $275. I told him that I would appreciate the manager coming to talk to me personally, but whatever it took for the evening to not be further disrupted, I would accommodate. All of the guests paid their individual bills at that time, including myself. We weren't ready for the evening to end. Again it should be noted that we were not disruptive, ill behaved, rude or displaying any other behavior that would be considered inappropriate or worthy of removal from the establishment.
The manager finally came to me (I thought it odd she was escorted by what I can only assume to be security. I asked her why we were being asked to leave and to explain the policy she wanted Justin to explain. She told me that in order to accommodate all of the guests of the establishment, even those who walked in and didn't make reservations, the tables had a 2-hour limit unless we agreed to purchase a bottle of liquor. I asked her why that wasn't explained to me when I called and why it wasn't explained to my cousin when he called. The only choice I had was to purchase a bottle of liquor so that is what I did. From that point on, my evening was ruined, but I didn't want it to be for the other people, especially the man celebrating his birthday. At this point the evening could have quickly turned to 15 disgruntled people rather than just one.
I explained to the manager before she left the table that the decision to buy a bottle wasn't a good business decision. Mathematically speaking at the 2-hour mark, 15 people with an average bill of $50 per person would bring in $750. Left to our own devices, we would have continued to drink and eat out of our own pockets and could have doubled that average price. For sake of this example, lets not double it, but add $25 to the average bill. (That is roughly 2 more drinks at 10.00 a piece). So $75.00 per person would bring in a total of $1,125.
A $50 bottle of liquor marked up 450 percent to $275 is a psychological decision, not one based on mathematical principles. I understand that some people might feel consuming a bottle in public, split amongst a party is an "elevation in status," but in actuality, it stops people from running a bar tab where the greater profit lies. People then drink from the bottle at the table, and when it's gone the night is done. If the people in our party were allowed to continue drinking on their own, Bar One would have made far more money from us, and kept me as a satisfied and returning customer.
Not to mention I was deeply disturbed that a gratuity was added on to the purchase of the bottle, for $49.50 bringing the combined total for one bottle of liquor to the exorbitant price of $324.50. Certainly none of this was Justin's fault, I suppose he was just following policy. I pride myself in being a tipper - I reward good service wherever it is presented and I've always tipped at least the requisite 15 percent.
Because I am a "number's cruncher," I don't need the assistance of my tip being added to my bill prior to payment. I do feel however that in this case, the tip was unwarranted, especially when the receipt itself indicated 1 seat. To me, this is further proof Bar One isn't encouraging of my return, or any of my friends and family. You don't feel as if we are intelligent enough to make wise decisions with our money and with our time and effort. Or maybe you assumed that we would be too inebriated to be concerned with expense.
Make no mistake; I only complied with the policy to make my cousin's night enjoyable. His guests didn't know of this conversation or of my feelings of great disappointment. None of us raised our voice, became argumentative, or otherwise ill behaved. Upselling something at 450 percent might be a deterrent to some — Bar One clearly wanted us to vacate the table. But it's important to know that when you've been blessed financially — as I have been as the owner of a successful business — sometimes money doesn't matter. It's probably important to note that my cousin is also a business owner.
The manager should be empowered to make executive decisions when needed, for the sake of future business. The decisions she makes at times, affects the viability of the company as a whole.
I'm only writing this to fully inform why I will never return and why I will encourage as many people as I can to join me in spending their money at establishments where we are treated as an integral part of the business plan.
Ms. Hudson is a Grant Park resident and businesswoman.
Mandy Smith
4:26 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
what a bunch of jerks! "hi it looks like you're all really enjoying yourselves & boosting my sales, so i'm going to have to ask you to leave." um... thanks for sharing so i dont have to waste any time there!
Andre Atlanta
5:45 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
I don't know where in Atlanta on a Friday or Saturday night that 15 people can go to an establishment and sit as long as they want while other people are waiting for their reservation to be filled as well. There is a reason why there is a 2 hour limit. Funny how when black folks go to a black establishment they love to complain,. At a white establishment they are satisfied to be even allowed to sit down at all. Support black business the rules are the same no matter where u go with 15 folks!
Chander Prescott
10:53 am on Sunday, April 8, 2012
Sorry Andre Atlanta - I have eaten in several establishments, black owned and Other owned, in different cities over the years, from just me and a friend to, small, medium and large parties, impromptu and reserved, and not once have we been asked to leave. Establishments schedule reservations with a built in unexpected stay over. What this woman experienced is a business run by a no nothing, never had anything and will never have anything owner. The owner has no sense etiquette, hospitality and most of all common sense. If I am in Atlanta, would I go here? only if my friends and I were in a fighting confrontational mood. LOL
KLS
6:09 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Bottom line....businesses that have majority black customers treat them like crap! They overcharge for everything and then feel the need to tell u how to tip on your bill. So annoying and I don't blame anyone who is discriminate about where to spend their money!
Paul M.
7:29 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
It sounds like policy wasn't properly communicated at the time of reservation. Downhill from there. Well trained staff will do better.
If the manager can extend your stay at a table for $275 its not about a waiting reservation. The manager could easily recognize that the customer was given bad information at the fault of restaurant staff and comp the party at least another hour.
Lets also keep in mind that this is one side of the story.
Gail Norell
12:55 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
It seems like you were treated badly, I hope many would be customers will be on guard for this lack of respect, scamming, etc. This may have been some of the reasons that this owner has lost other businesses, endeavors, etc. Shame on him, he should remember what you reap, you sow. I believe that the staff was following his instructions completely.
Lashay
8:27 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Let me first say i have worked in the bar business for 16 years and I am black, there most defiantly should be a 2 hour limit because I have seen black people sit for hours and hours just hanging out and not spending money just taking up space, like 15 come and 2 people drink and always looking for something for nothing hence the complaining, I hate to say it but blacks also seem to be the worst tippers in the world too, stingy and like I said quick to complain so they can get out of tipping, good for the business, I understand why they have those policies in place in the black community.
Kirkwood Resident
8:16 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Why does this have to be a black/white thing? This is a minority owned business, but the bottom line is that it is a business that functions as a nightclub. It is not a restaurant where you can sit and lounge at a VIP table for hours without purchasing anything or risk of purchasing anything. Many nightclubs have bottle service because they can make more revenue from table turnover than from a party that is already tipsy who may or may not continue to drink. You are paying for the ability, or rent, to continue to stay at that table. I don't like that, so I don't go to nightclubs with group of people. I agree they should have told you ahead of time, and probably should have comped you a few free apps or extended your time for 30 more minutes. On a side note, I worked as a server for many years. Here is how tipping used to work. 10% or less means the server stunk. 15% means the server was not very good but was not terrible. 18% was the server did an average job - just good. 20% was considered above average. Anything 20% and above would be considered a good tip. Also, for valet service, tipping $1 is considered like 10%, $2 is 15%, $3 is 18%, $4-$5 is considered 20%. This was my experience, but times have changed and it may be different now.
J in EAV
12:45 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
The lady in this story sounds like a busy-body. Who calls the next day after a 38 yr old man to find out for themself? Also, a party of 15 is a huge group to serve and provide individual checks. I seriously doubt they continued to order food or even drinks.
@Andre Atlanta: I agree!
Beauty Venom
8:11 am on Monday, October 22, 2012
I went to Bar One for a birthday party two weeks ago,had a great time.we stayed undisturbed for 5 hours.my friend called ahead to request the necessary information.
based on the timing of how the bottles and cupcakes were brought out, every hour, I believe it was priced on how long she expected her and her guests to stay. Perhaps the policy has been adjusted since this story. We were also in a different section, to the left, but I noticed SEVERAL other large groups of parties throughout the establishment having what looked to be a good time.
Antoinette Smith
12:15 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
I am coming to judge for myself... Antoinette Smith... Straight To The Point Books.. Ceo/est.09!
Antoinette Smith
12:18 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
Cynthia and Peter.. I am a fan and Cynthia I gave your assistant Carlos a copy of my book " Daddy's Favorite Pop"... Did you receive it and if so did you like it??? Much Continued Success to ya and I look forward to meeting you guys soon!!!,GOD BLESS!!
Tomathy
11:09 am on Monday, December 31, 2012
$275 is cheap for a bottle of good stuff. I usually won't drink it unless it's at least $500.
Barbie Vegas
8:57 pm on Sunday, January 27, 2013
I love Cynthia&Peter im excited for them because they are starting to build an empire for their family. If all they made was 50.00 dollars for the party of 15 that would have been a problem. What did you guys go to bar one for? Were you hoping to get.on TV? Maybe you guys should have went to TGIF FRIDAYS OR DENNYS. I CANT WAIT TO ORDER MY.500 dollar Ciroc. Stop trying to.tear down what Peter is trying to.build GO.PETER!
Chrissy Marie
6:23 pm on Saturday, February 9, 2013
I went to BarOne on 2/8/13 for my girlfriends birthday party. I sat at the table for 25 minutes before a server ever greeted me at the table... Then after my order was taken, I received my food around the same time I had gotten my drinks... My server never came back to refill my drinks or check on me or my guest. The bus boys kept trying to clean off my table before I was ever done eating or drinking and when I wad ready to leave, I was not able to locate my server to get my check. 45 minutes later, getting the check, I was asked to see if I wanted to add any additional to the gratuity that was already added to my bill.... This will not be a venue that I will frequent again!!!!
Willisa Shynara Williams
12:44 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I will be visiting Bar One this weekend!!!
Willisa Shynara Williams
12:45 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I am going to Bar One this weekend to find out for myself.
ASIA
3:29 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013
If u spending ur money u SHOULD be able to sit as long as u want...u get there late that's on u...I have never heard of no shit like this in my life...u go to NY OR LA THEY DON'T TELL U TO GET UP IT'S OTHER PPL WAITING..WTF
Denise Turner
8:30 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Checking out Bar One this up coming Friday or Saturday, stay tuned!!!!