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Chick-fil-A Flap not the First Time a Company has run Afoul of Customers

Have you ever boycotted a business because you disagreed with its politics?

 

 

Chick-fil-A is known for a lot of things – the chicken nuggets and waffle fries, the friendly and efficient staff, the cow statues hanging off billboards and urging people to ‘eat mor chikin.’

The opening of a new store can draw crowds of people willing to camp out overnight for the chance to win a free year of food. The restaurants are popular places for school fundraisers. And many people look forward to the promotional days that offer free food to those willing to dress up like the cow mascots.

But in recent days, the Georgia-based fast food chain has been catching flak for president Dan Cathy’s statements against same sex marriage.

In East Atlanta, the owners of Urban Cannibals Bodega + Bites _ Chef Calavino Donati and her wife, musician and activist Doria Roberts _ shot back with a chicken and biscuit themed special event called "Urban Cannibals Bite Back." The couple said they were looking for a way to combat "outrageous and hateful things being said by fairly powerful people" including Cathy.

Patch blogger Scott Tewell raised his concerns in a post on the Decatur-Avondale Estates site and said he wouldn't spend money at the chain any more. Tewell wrote that he’d tried to engage in a dialogue with the company, which told him “We are not anti-anybody.”

(UPDATE) John and Cristina Crays, the owner/operators of the downtown Decatur Chick-fil-A, posted a response urging people not to punish them for Cathy's "personal views." The Crays, who have donated food for many community events and fundraisers, wrote "We are not a corporation - we are real people and taxpayers as each Chick-fil-A franchise is independently owned and operated."

Of course, Chick-fil-A is not the first company to take a stand that upset some of its customers.

In 2010, Target Corp. drew criticism from progressives for donating to the campaign of Republican Tom Emmer for governor in Minnesota. Some observers called Emmer the biggest opponent of gay rights in the GOP field that year.

Some Republicans boycotted Heinz ketchup during John Kerry's 2004 run for president. (His wife, Teresa Heinz, inherited the condiment company's fortune. Boycott supporters argued that buying Heinz products would help fund Kerry's campaign.)

So, have you ever boycotted a business because you disagreed with their political or social positions? Do you think such boycotts work to sway corporations? Tell us what you think in the comments area below.

Related Topics: Chick-Fil-A and Gay Marriage

JamesMichael

5:49 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

It is in the very nature of lizards to hiss, slither, and snap. I would no sooner enter a Chick-fil-a than I would slip my hand under a suspicious rock.

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Rob A.

7:43 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Good !! One less person in line in front of me when I order ...

Rosannrosannadanna

6:18 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I will admit this is a slippery slope. I can't expect myself or anyone else to try to follow the money for all places they patronize. Take Georgia-Pacific, maker of Dixie cups, Brawny, and toilet paper, which is owned by Koch Industries. You may have heard the names of the ultra-conservative players Charles and David Koch who also started Americans for Prosperity and other organizations whose views I think are borderline ignorant. Then again, maybe it's appropriate that I use Angel Soft for it's intended purpose.

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Jeannie

9:47 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Georgia Pacific publicly states they don't believe in global warming. This impacts my buying decisions. A company that publicly discriminates, like Chik-Fil-A, also impacts my buying decisions.

Nancy

6:52 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Dan Cathy is entitled to his opinions. My objection is that his firm Chick-Fil-A gives MILLIONS of dollars to hate-filled anti gay organizations. That is not the nature of Christianity as I understand it. And it negates the many GOOD things the company does for young people. So yes, my husband and I are boycotting Chick-Fil-A and speaking out against these heinous practices of giving money to support fear-based and hateful organizations.

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Justin

7:53 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Agree completely! It's one thing to share an opinion, it's another to support known hate groups.

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Harper

8:28 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I think to tell people that they are filled with "hate" because they support "fear-based organizations" is a very cunning way of shaming them for their opinions. I personally am outraged that society wants to shame me into supporting gay marriage. I am opposed to gay marriage, but I do not feel any kind of hate toward gay people. I simply do not agree with their practices and I am free to feel that way. Hate is a very strong word that is thrown around too loosely in our society. To those people who are so "open-minded": please be open-minded enough to let me have my beliefs and leave me alone.

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Glennis

4:59 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Well said!
I can't and wont support a company that funnels millions into anti-gay organizations, only for said org. to do the damage against LGBT's and CFA wont get caught holding the incriminating, to small glove. I am a Christian and have been these 48 years of my life and will never understand ANY "so called Christian" that has the NERVE to JUDGE ANYONE! Don't even start throwing Bible verse at me because I know it inside and out and can tell you that YOU judgement mongers are the worst of all sinners!
Nancy, Thank you for saying it! The Cathy's have the right to an opinion but sending out henchman is another thing all together.
I will not ever set foot in one again and neither will my children and when they bring their wares to our school, I'll let it be known that WE will NOT support them in any way....even FREE!
LOVE THY NEIGHBOR...ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT ARE EXACTLY LIKE YOU!!!!

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Dr. Jeff

6:32 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

My eldest brother is gay. I asked him what he thought about the flack. He said he'd discuss it over dinner at Cick-fil-a.

Since he's gay, out for over 35 years.... Does this make him anti-gay?

I believe in civil unions where the rights that married M/F couples have should be extended to other legal partnerships on a national level. The term marriage is not one that I believe describes a gay, lesbian relationship... Change the vernacular and you'd be surprised how many more Americans will embrace your cause.

So, does this make me 1/2 anti-gay & 1/2 pro-gay?

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Mark baker

3:50 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

So is the Bible espousing hate when you consider Romans 1:21-32; 1Cor. 6:9-10? Here's another one from the Bible "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6. Does anybody even believe in the Word of God anymore?

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Rob A.

7:45 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Good - Go to McDonalds

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don Gabacho

6:30 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

" I personally am outraged that society wants to shame me into supporting gay marriage."---Harper

Well said.

I find it most objectionable that anyone must now have to take seriously people who prioritize their lives on with whom and how they achieve sexual orgasm.

If they are consenting adults and practice discretion, I certainly don't care. I think most people would agree.

But there is the element now of gays having decided they have a right to flaunt their sexual preference. So much so, to have to make it official. Civil union is not enough. After all heterosexuals sharing a home and expenses---and who love each other too---could qualify.

Nothing will do but a marriage certificate.

It's like having to be afraid of telling overgrown brats that they are being brats because, if you do, the unrelenting brats then whine you "hate" them.

It's a form of blackmail.

Jackie Earley

7:04 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I have never boycottted a a business for any reasons. Whatever a person beliefs or opinions are it is their choice. If someone chooses to marry their same sex partner and it is legal, just do it. I have gay nieces and I love them but I am not going to stop eating at Chick-fil-A.

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Justin

7:55 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I encourage you to try the chicken at Zaxby's, Guthrie's, KFC, Popeyes, Church's, McDonalds or Burger King and to stand in solidarity with your niece.

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KO Smith

3:28 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Justin, I would argue that her neices should stand in solidarity with Jackie and give up their beliefs to support hers rather than Jackie giving up her beliefs to support beliefs that aren't hers. That's the problem with the gay and lesbian agenda. What is being voiced is that if people disagree with their beliefs then they are spreading hate and not accepting diversity. The reality is that those who do not tolerate opinions different from their own are the ones who do not accept diversity and who are fueling the "hate" fire. It is the gay and lesbian community itself that needs to look in the mirror and recognize the double standard many of their members are projecting. They don't have to agree with people who follow biblical principles, but just as they are entitled to their opinion, so are those like the Chick-Fil-A pres. and many, many others who agree with them. Many in the gay and lesbian community are failing to accept that.

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Justin

3:45 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@KO - Remember when BP caused an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? Lots of people stopped buying BP gas. Why? As a show of support and solidarity to the people who live along the Gulf who were affected by the situation. It was an easy show of support: people all over the country went to the Chevron or Shell station instead. Millions of people who never even visit the Gulf wanted to show their support in some way, with the pocketbook being the fastest impact and slap no the wrist to BP. That is why you see so many BP commercials today - damage control. Great! Most of us have forgiven them for their mistake and now buy gas there again.

That is all I am asking from Jackie. Send a message to Chick Fil A that her niece is an equal citizen with equal status to the Cathys and everyone else in the world. Buy a piece of friend chicken next door at a company who does value her niece and her in the same way. That is a reasonable request.

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don Gabacho

6:47 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

"Remember when BP caused an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico? Lots of people stopped buying BP gas..."---Justin

I admit I considered boycotting BP, but the local BP station, which is owned independently, employ such exceptionally nice people. Even a gay Nigerian.

I had to consider not only them but also just how difficult, even impossible, it would be for BP to clean up its mess if everyone boycotted.

I decided getting that mess cleaned up had to be the priority.

Not punishing BP by, in effect, punishing ourselves.

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don Gabacho

6:55 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

"I encourage you to try the chicken at Zaxby's, Guthrie's, KFC, Popeyes, Church's, McDonalds or Burger King and to stand in solidarity with your niece."---Justin

Why are you discriminating against vegetarians?

Brian Crowe

7:15 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

In this case, it isn't simply a matter of "disagreeing with their politics." That's like saying "I disagreed with the politics of the segregationists." More than a bit of an understatement. Chick-fil-a has and continues to (as far as I know) materially support organizations that would make homosexuality a crime and deny homosexuals basic civil rights (even beyond denying them the right to marry). I would no more support them than I would a business that supports bans on interracial marriage.

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Boobalina Kalusa

7:17 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Boycott is the best answer, i'm in..

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larry english

7:24 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

dominos pizza
against women;s rights
wle

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Rosannrosannadanna

9:06 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

In the spirit of transparency, please explain what you mean by being against women's rights? Is this only about abortion or total equality?

Phil

7:28 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I think it is sad when an opinion is expressed by a businessman and a coordinated boycott is organized to punish anyone with the opinion that you disagree with. And the boycott harms everyone who works at the business. It is a form of economic terrorism. Chick Fil-A has thousands of employees and franchisee owners that were not involved in the comment will suffer.

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JamesMichael

7:46 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Do you, now?
Well I think it is sad when an opinion is expressed by a "Christian", and a coordinated attack is organized by his fellow hate-mongers to deny fundamental dignity to his targeted prey. Hate harms everyone who hates, and everyone who is a target of that hate. It is a form of psychological terrorism. Christianity has countless millions of worshipers and churches that are not involved in such hate-mongering. They, too, suffer from the hate.

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Bill Palmer

7:52 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Evidently it is not simply the personal opinion of company president Cathy.....it is also a financial campaign against gay marriage. They are on the wrong side of social morality in this case.

Drew Plant

7:37 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Chik-fil-A not only wants to materially support efforts to subjugate the rights of others, they want to hide behind Christian beliefs to do it. BOYCOTT!

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Fred

7:50 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

So, the Government can tell a "private" Catholic institution to provide abortion services in the health plan they offer their employees ... but a "private" restaurant company can't openly say they support traditional marriage between a man and woman.

Got it.

This country is so F'd up.

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JamesMichael

8:46 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Fred
You should work towards thinking more clearly.
It is an intellectual skill developed through competent education and regular intellectual challenge. Give it a try.

Meanwhile, please note that Chick-fil-a management is free to take whatever public positions it pleases. I am free to spend my $$$ in whatever way pleases me. I am also free to urge others to spend their $$$ in socially-responsible ways, and to support companies that exhibit a sense of genuine human decency.

See, Fred?
Chick-fil-a is free.
You are free.
I am free.

It's what Jesus would want.

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Fred

10:02 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

so docker ... how were you "conceived" ? By a man and a man ? Unlikely.

so ... saying a marriage of a man and a woman is "traditional" is a crime now ? one that gets the government gin'd up to stop you from opening new businesses ?

gays just get all riled up because of their "inferiority complex" ... it's just that simple.

I mean seriously, what other group feels the need to have "pride" parade ? Really, a parade for your sexuality ?

bulldogger

7:57 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Yeah, I started boycotting "Movie Theaters" in 1979 (before boycotting anything was popular) because when I sat down and the lights went out and the movie started, I promptly went to sleep :) The theater refused to do anything to keep me awake and refused my demand for a refund......this may be a record for the longest boycott in history. You know, in this country we should respect anyone's right to think, have opinions and the right to voice those opinions and to contribute to organizations who espouse similar opinions without anyone calling them a "Hate Monger" and threatening them. Aren't you doing the same thing you say Truet Cathy is doing?......hating? Tackle a bigger issue, such as......why do 70% of black females have babies out of wedlock? This is an issue that has a much larger impact on our society than gay and lesbian marriage. Personally, I couldn't care less about same-sex marriage......it's your life and you need to be able to live it as you choose. Folks, that's all Truet Cathy is doing......he's a good person and does not deserve all your hate.

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KMT

8:28 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Why would I spend my money at a business that then turns it around and gives it to people that discriminate against me? They actively petition to ban gay adoptions, gay marriage and gay rights.

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Nick

9:08 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

"It's your life and you need to be able to live it as you choose."

Same for women who choose to have babies out of wedlock?

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Fourth ward

8:12 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

I dont think he is a good person at all especially when donating big dollars to kill gay marriage groups. That's not what Jesus would do. Also if he was so for traditional marriage and its so sacred, why didnt he donate money to outlaw divorce?

Rickels

8:02 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

For those who choose to continue eating at Chick-Fil-A don't expect to rub shoulders with the Muppets. They and Ed Helms from the Office are also boycotting. On the other hand you may bump into people like Mike Huckabee of Rick Santorum or anyone who doesn't ascribe to the boycott mentality that never seems to achieve anything except make the propaganda/news shows.

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Mark baker

5:21 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Fourth ward, are you a Christian? If you are could you please tell me what Romans 1:21-28 means. Also show in scripture what Jesus would do. You don't know MY Lord very well if you don't know his word. Jesus loves everybody but he does not approve of Anybody's sinful lifestyle, be they homosexuals, adulterers, theives, liars, murderers and so on. It's baffling how when we, (Christians) are silent we're called hypocrites, yet when we speak up we're called intolerant and hateful. I don't believe any of the detractors hating on Truett Cathy and Chic-fil-a even know the Lord. They've fashioned a God after their own image. A God that will let them do what they want to do no matter how sordid and evil and still go to heaven. I would venture to say, you are not a believer in the God of the Bible. If you are you need to repent and serve the Lord the way he's laid out in scripture. Stop worshipping the idol you created in your mind.
What about countries like Saudi Arabia who kill homosexuals? They are the biggest suppliers of our oil that makes our gasoline, why don't you hate on them and quit buying gasoline. Once again I saybto all of the people hating on the Cathys because they actually practice what they preach, you need to repent now.

Jacqui Chew

8:06 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

The question here Frank is whether private individuals would boycott a commercial business whose financial giving policies they disagree with. Your analogy is inaccurate and irrelevant to the question at hand

For the record. The homophobic stance isn't just one man's opinion, this man happens to wield the power of a corporate entity and that entity finances hate activities and worst yet, legislative action against what should be between 2 individuals. It is an extreme position and one that is fueled by fear and hate. The saddest part is this entity chooses to hide behind Christianity. I am pretty sure the their god weeps At this behavior.

For the person who calls a boycott of these types of organizations economic terrorism, you really should review the meaning of that term.

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Harper

8:34 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Could you please outline what hateful activities these coporations and organizations have committed besides disagreeing with homosexual lifestyle choices? In light of other hateful activities recently seen in our country, I would not count legislative action as hateful. Disappointing and unfortunate, yes, but not hateful.

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Jacqui Chew

9:34 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Harper:

Here you go:
http://blog.timesunion.com/libbypost/is-that-chicken-supporting-anti-gay-groups/706/

And 'disagreeing' is too weak of a word to describe the actions and sentiments of these groups. Disagreeing implies passive disapproval, which any one can have of anything (the whole freedom thing in this country) but actively putting financial and political resources AGAINST a certain behavior/action and wanting it to outlaw that behavior, that sort of action qualifies for something much stronger than "disapproval."

But yet, I do not fault the company's for its stance. But I certainly can disagree and disapprove of it and express my disapproval with a boycott. As for the employees, I don't disapprove or disagree with them. They didn't make the choice to sign the checks. But those who support the company's stance? I disagree with their opinions too.

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kbritt

9:52 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Harper--please don't use the term "homosexual lifestyle choices" as that is an inaccurate description, just as there is no "heterosexual lifestyle choice" either. When you use your money & power to discriminate against a group of people, that is HATE.

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Harper

9:53 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Thanks. Just keep in mind that when supporters of gay marriage (or any issue for that matter) jump on the bandwagon and throw the word "hate" at those who do not support their opinion, they immediately close off the possibility of having any meaningful discourse on the issue.

Phil

8:08 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Group urges same-sex couples to kiss at Chick-fil-A

Gay support groups across the country are urging same-sex couple to kiss at Chick-fil-A restaurants on Aug. 3 as part of a "kiss in" campaign.

Gay support groups across the country are urging same-sex couple to kiss at Chick-fil-A restaurants on Aug. 3 as part of a "kiss in" campaign.

Equality Illinois and other gay support groups across the country are urging gay and lesbian couples to go to their local Chick-fil-A restaurant on Aug. 3 for a “kiss-in” campaign, reports CBS Chicago.

Equality Illinois, which previously gained national attention when it slammed the restaurant chain for what the organization said its research proved were the restaurant’s deep ties to anti-gay organizations, says that during the “kiss-in” LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) supporters will show their disdain for Atlanta-based Chick-Fil-A’s policies with public displays of affection in front of their restaurants.”

The “kiss-in” is the latest fallout from Chick-fil-A president and COO Dan Cathy’s recent comments to Baptist Press regarding his family’s support of traditional marriage between a man and woman.

The Equality Illinois campaign, dubbed “Flick-the-Hate,” also encourages people to sign a petition asking universities and malls in that state not to do business with the restaurant.

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don Gabacho

7:05 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

"Group urges same-sex couples to kiss at Chick-fil-A

Gay support groups across the country are urging same-sex couple to kiss at Chick-fil-A restaurants on Aug. 3 as part of a "kiss in" campaign."

They should call it Brats' Rights.

Harmony Yoga & Wellness Center

8:12 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I never eat fast food anyway. Organic, fresh, close to home grown is my choice. I believe all big business in someway because of its focus on money is going to try to make as much as possible. Those at the top of the food chain have no idea for the most part of what it takes to be humanitarian. Not every corporation is closed minded but certainly there concern is mostly for their profit. I don't boycott business but as much as humanly possible I would just rather support local small business and do my own cooking.

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Sheep Dog

8:28 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Chick fil a is just waaaay too good! On that note... I'll take a number 5 with a coke zero.

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Michelle

8:29 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

What is the world coming to? You can't force people to agree with every opinion you have. Chick Fil-A is a privately owned business based on Christian values and although gay marriage may be a controversial and sensitive topic these days, everyone doesn't agree with it. You can't "force" everyone to agree with your views. If you don't like what they stand for just don't go to eat but there's no need to boycott.

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Jason

10:10 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I don't think you understand what's going on. Are you trying to "force" me to eat their greasy chicken sandwiches?

They take corporate profits and give them to certified hate groups whose goal is to pass government regulations making freedom illegal. It's their profits, they can do whatever they want with them. Freedom!

I take my paycheck and spend it at Krogers, Moe's, (several) bars, etc. Wherever I choose, since it is MY money. I don't spend it at Chik-fil-a. Freedom! Gods bless America.

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Michelle

1:56 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I guess I'm not following you. Everyone has the right to choose. Would you go into a random church and force them to change Christian their views or find a church that better suits you? You have every right to spend your money where you see fit but forcing your views on other people is not Freedom. Just like you have the right to Freedom of speech, so does Chik-fil-a, individuals and others. I don't believe Chik-fil-a would every support or employ a hate group...empowering marriage between a man and woman and its focus on the family by their definition does not perpetuate hate.

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Dbc

3:20 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Michelle, follow the money...there is a big difference between freedom of speech and spending personal and corporate dollars to take down those with whom you disagree.

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don Gabacho

7:08 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

"...certified hate groups..."---Justin

"Cerified hate groups"?

According to who?

Don't tell me. Let me guess.

The Joe McCarthyesque SPLC?

bobintoday

8:33 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I live near a pizza-type chain restaurant (to remain nameless so as not to contribute to more boycotts LOL) that, while they make mediocre pizza at best, do make the best broasted chicken in town. I love their chicken. But their neon sign outside the establishment is a huge turn-off. They continue spouting "Jesus" messages - like they are trying to convert everyone. Folks (and restaurant owners in particular), your job is to sell food - and make money. Your religious feelings and sentiments are your own personal business. They belong in church on Sunday - not blazing away on flashing neon sign in front of your establishment. You can have your religious beliefs, and I support your right to do so. But please refrain from attempting to influence mine....bob

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

12:37 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Why are you afraid the messages might "take" one day?

Have to admit, it made you think didn't it?

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don Gabacho

7:14 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

" Your religious feelings and sentiments are your own personal business. They belong in church on Sunday - not blazing away on flashing neon sign in front of your establishment." ---bobintoday

Sort of like beliefs on how to achieve orgasm should be personal beliefs and belong in the bedroom. Not the stuff, be it homosexual or heterosexual, to flash and parade in front of others.

Me

8:35 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Is it 'hate,' or is it an opinion and/or belief. I am for Chick-fil-a and for Gay/Lesbian rights. But that is just my opinion. I know Chick donates to many organization, but I am not aware of any, and I don't see any named here, that want to make homsexuality a crime or deny rights- I just may not be educated.
I think I will try and eat at Urban Cannibals becasue I like the name and it sounds like a cool palce, but I will also eat at Chick-fil-a because I like the food.

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Phil

8:38 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Why is it that if someone disagrees with you, that it is called "hate"? The hyperbole here that Chick Fil-A contributes to "HATE" groups is over the top. Let's just say they contribute to issue groups that YOU do not agree with.

Are you part of a Hate group if you boycott Chick Fil-A? NO--you disagree with the CEO of Chick Fil-A.

If someone says they support "civil union" for gays, is that hateful? If someone agrees with thought that the term "marriage' should be reserved for traditional marriage and civil unions for otherwise--with all the attendant legal obligations of marriage--does that mean that opinion holder is part of a Hate group?

Does a Chick Fil-A employee have rights too?

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Jason

10:17 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Disagree all you want, that's America. Just don't pass government regulations restricting my freedom...that's hate. I'm not even sure why the government is in the job of marriage, or why we give government handouts to couples just because they're married.

And don't start with this "traditional marriage" bullcrap. Unless you believe that brides should be stoned to death unless they're virgins on their wedding day, and that polygamy is the way to go (King David had 7+ wives and 10+ concubines), you don't believe in biblical traditioinal marriage.

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R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"

12:39 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Think you might have missed a couple of the updates along the way in your reading, try the new testament...

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Kyle

1:56 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

R said: "Think you might have missed a couple of the updates along the way in your reading, try the new testament..."

If the definition of traditional marriage changed with the new testament, it can and should change again.

Justin

8:40 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

"Among the many groups to receive donations through Chick-fil-A's WinShape Foundation, which was created by Chick-fil-A founder and chairman S. Truett Cathy in 1984, were the Marriage & Family Foundation ($1,188,380), Exodus International ($1,000) and the Family Research Council (also $1,000), Equality Matters reported." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-group-donations-_n_1644609.html

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Sheep Dog

8:44 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

In no way I'm homophobic or against gays in any way. I feel that every person should have the right to do whatever the hell they want with their body.

However, I do have a question.... Why do gays do so much to push their lifestyle onto others? The whole "kiss in" idea bro... C'mon man! I don't wanna be in a Chick fil a having to see 2 dudes kissing. C'mon man, that's a violation. Kids should not have to see that.

I mean with all of these gay parades and gay this and gay that... We need to start having heterosexual pride weekend. The Atlanta dating scene is just God awful! We need to start having events where heterosexuals can meet and flaunt our heterosexuality, lol.

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Justin

8:49 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Why do gays do so much to push their lifestyle onto others??? You've got to be kidding. When was the last time you saw a gay couple walking down the sidewalk holding hands? When was the last time you saw a gay couple kiss in public? Oh yeah, ONCE A YEAR in a single neighborhood park (Piedmont Park locally). Now, think about how many times even in a day or a week that you see straight couples holding hands or giving each other a kiss on the cheek.

What a hypocritical comment for you to say.

Heterosexual Pride Weekend is every weekend, every day. Straight couples can hold hands, kiss, lay on a blanket in a park,... you know, the stuff YOU take for granted that gay people simply cannot or will not do for fear of bullying or something far worse.

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KMT

8:53 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Like my mother always used to say when I asked "You have Mother's Day and Father's Day...when is it Kid's Day?" Her response was "Every day is Kid's Day." Well, EVERY DAY is heterosexual day. I see straight couples walking hand-in-hand down the street every day. I see straight couples kissing on the street every day. I walked one time with my partner hand-in-hand and we had eggs thrown at us. We wouldn't need 'special days' or 'special rights' if we were given EQUAL rights.

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Michelle

9:07 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Justin, anyone who watches television would know your comments are not true (The Wire, Glee, Modern Family, etc). There are plenty of shows that promote otherwise....living here in Atlanta, I see couples (gay and heterosexual) holding hands. I think one should just live their life and not force others to transform their views just because you think they should.

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Justin

9:27 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Michelle - other than in Midtown, I simply do not see what you are seeing. My partner and I do not live in the city and have never felt comfortable to hold hands in our area.

Should we assume TV shows like The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, Jersey Shore, and the Kardashians are representative of heterosexual relationships? Of course not! TV gets it wrong, all of the time. While we appreciate that 2.9% of all TV characters are represented as a gay character, what is shown in Glee and Modern Family is utopian. It's not reality. It's not the South.

http://www.glaad.org/publications/whereweareontv11/

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Michelle

2:05 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Justin, You are right and sncerely apologize for stereotyping using those shows listed below. However, I still see straight and gay couples in the Atlanta area showing affection all of the time (maybe sometimes too much...lol). Your feelings are not far off from a southern moving to the north or a hispanic in an all white neighborhood. Maybe you should spend weekends in Atlanta once in awhile...I don't think you would feel the same as where you live.

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Justin

3:39 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Michelle, you are absolutely right that in-town neighborhoods are a more comfortable place for gay & lesbian couples. I just think it's a shame that it doesn't extend very far outside of the perimeter. That puts a burden on us to pay more for an in town home with less square footage and less yard - things we enjoy having just like everyone else.

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don Gabacho

7:21 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

"We wouldn't need 'special days' or 'special rights' if we were given EQUAL rights."

But you have the rights. Just as all people do. Color, creed, gender, sexual preference has nothing to do with it.

It is called "equal protection under the law." Which is all that is, and should be, needed to suffice.

Not to pursue your rights as a person but instead a "special" person for being one color or another, one gender or another, one religion or another, one sexual preference or another, defeats people having rights.

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KMT

11:07 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

@don G. You are incorrect. I CAN be fired for being gay. Up until this year, I couldn't serve in the armed forces if I was open about being gay. I am NOT allowed to marry my partner of 17 years. I can even be refused to see her if she were hospitalized. We don't have equal taxation or death benefits. That is why we need to keep fighting for 'our rights'.

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don Gabacho

1:54 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

1 of 2 @don G. You are incorrect. I CAN be fired for being gay.

You are missing my point. You then take the employer to task not for any "special" or supposedly specific rights rather than the employer having violated "equal protection of the law"----period.

Like those who threw eggs on a person, it is not up to the victim to state or explain the motive of those who threw the eggs. Or that you, as anyone else having eggs thrown on them, have to claim rights that are already due for being merely a person.

All you have to do, and should do, is insist on equal protection as anyone else and leave it those who threw the eggs to, if they have the gall, to plead any rights or explain. No one else.

"Up until this year, I couldn't serve in the armed forces if I was open about being gay."

That's another matter. It is not as if you had been attacked---even with eggs.

Aside from general morale concerns yet to be resolved, there can be other reasons not to have gays in the military---particularly in combat situations. For example: After having outfought exceptionally macho forces, being captured by them; and then the risks to your own side when they have to go into a rescue made extraordinarily urgent consequent to that fact.

Of course you could choose 'not to be openly gay' to protect yourself and comrades, but doesn't that defeat your argument for being "open"?

When "discretion is the better part of valor" in even combat, must it not be true anywhere else?

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don Gabacho

2:18 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

2 of 2

"I am NOT allowed to marry my partner of 17 years. I can even be refused to see her if she were hospitalized. We don't have equal taxation or death benefits. That is why we need to keep fighting for 'our rights'."

All of which can be achieved, if pursued, as Civil Union---even for heterosexuals sharing each other's lives and even loving each other*. Given that, the only difference between Civil Union (if pursued) and the marriage you insist on then is sexual orgasm.

(*As in Laurel and Hardy which was never merely Hollywood.)

And as I've stated before, I can not and will not accede to the priorities of anyone, be they heterosexual or homosexual, when the priority is orgasm.

Sexual orgasm is simply not that important. Even to love.

At least for grown-ups.

The most essential problem gays are creating isn't their gayness per se rather than, when open, this dedicated and unrelenting immaturity inherent to the openess---this lack of discretion----whether they are conscious of it or not; and the damage this unrelenting immaturity is doing to others.

That there are people who will even vote in blocks on who will be President of a country according to a shared priority for orgasm astonishes me---much less anyone running for a Presidency who would pander to such immaturity.

Just as, I think, it should astonish any reasonable adult.

Sheep Dog

8:49 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Phil, I totally agree. Just because people don't agree, doesn't meant that they hate you or support hate groups. Human Beings never cease to amaze me.

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Tim

8:49 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Seems like if you want to forcefully deny equal rights and opportunities to certain groups you personally do not approve of, and if you spend corporate and personal funds to promote the use of government force and power to acheive these personal goals, that is a good definition of hate.

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bulldogger

12:15 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Tell me who's doing that.....be specific please and cite the Code/Law examples that can be googled. Thanks!!!!!

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Tim

12:28 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

to bulldogger, please read the above forum for a good example. Mr. Truett has donated millions of dollers to the campaign in California to overturn gay marriage, specifically to deny gay couples the rights and responsibilities such as inheritance, social security and hospital visitation rights that married couples enjoy just by getting a legal document controlled, issued and enforced by the government.

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Raven

10:10 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

I don't have problem at all with gays or their right to marry. That being said, it's also wise to educate yourself on just what "big business" supports. There are countless corporations that promote "hate mongering " groups, use non ethical work practices, etc. Try watching a documentary hosted by Woody Harrelson called "Ethos". You might be surprised at what you learn.

Ralph Pressley

8:50 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

What is Hateful about saying you support traditional marriage? - Which the majority of Americans agree with. The hateful thing is being hateful toward a person expressing their views when they are not aligned with your views. I feel sure that these people have no idea of the wonderful things that this company does, including having several homes for orphans and taking care of their every need, including college. Nor do they want to hear of the good these people do. You say we are supposed to be open minded, yet you have a closed mine to anyone that does not agree with your views, on situations such as this! Sad! I ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday and I have never seen a nicer group of employees, and I did not see them treating anyone different from anyone else. Everyone that came in that store was treated with dignity and respect. Why don't you try doing the same. Stop your Hate toward people that dare not to agree with your views! I have gay people in my family and I love them , although I do not agree with the life stile they have chosen. As Christians we are told to love the person even if we hate, what the Bible is clear to say is a sin. We all have sinned and fallen short in many ways. It is not our place to judge, but we should be able to express our views, just like you do, with out being crucified for doing so. Try having a little love in your heart for those that disagree with you and don't be so angry. Learn to disagree without being so disagreeable!

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Tim

9:20 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

What is hateful is using your money and corporate influence to try to get the government to use its control and force to deny equal rights and opportunities to a group of Americans that you disagree with. This is about denying one group of people equual rights and responsibiliities, not about traditional marriage.

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kbritt

9:58 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Actually, the majority of Americans in a recent poll showed support for Marriage Equality--53%.

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Dbc

10:07 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Nothing hateful about support of traditional marriage...Hateful is actively supporting and influencing legislature and policy just because you deem the choice of others as non-traditional (+ a sin) to you, which is not limited to marriage equality but also in many choice issues. Why these big corporations + individuals spend the big bucks to legislate morality instead of human rights is unAmerican. You are correct when you say, "The hateful thing is being hateful toward a person expressing their views when they are not alined with your views."

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bulldogger

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Great post, Ralph Pressley.

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mlle

5:35 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Ralph, you get it. Let's all of us recognize too the awesome privilege we have in this country to express our differing opinions in the public square of ideas and do so with respect to those with whom we disagree. Maybe if civility had not been lost in the debate between Bible-believing Christians and those for same-sex marriage we wouldn't be accusing each other of being hateful. Like you say, we have all sinned and fallen short and it's not our place to judge. God commanded us to love Him and to love our neighbor as ourselves. We need to leave the behavior part up to Him.

kevin

8:58 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

go read the king james version of the bible which is the real version of the translation and you people will see that a marriage is between a woman and a man. not tim and tom , or sue and sally. go ahead and boycott, chik fil a will be around a long time they got good food and it is clean thats all that matters. they even close on sunday thats a tall tell sign right there that they must beleave in the bible which does not support a gay marriage and you people have been eating there for years. that #1 combo will be calling your name and you will be back..........

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bulldogger

10:03 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve

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Jason

10:26 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Actually, read a little closer and you'll see that it's between David and Ahinoam of Jezreel, Abigail of Carmel, Maachah the daughter of King Talmai of Geshur, Haggith, Abital, Eglah and Bathsheba the daughter of Ammiel.

Also, they serve bacon in their restaurant...which the bible prohibits, so they Cathys will be burning in hell with the rest of us bacon-eating heritics.

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bulldogger

12:19 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Jason, I would suggest you remove that big old chip off your shoulder.

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Dbc

10:48 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

The party line that the king james version it the "real" translation is only the view of the fundamentalist to further their agenda. Appropriate since King James "authorized" it to advance his own agenda. I bought in as I was told when I was a youth; however, I have never, once, heard that authorized theory after I moved outside of the south. Keep them in line, brother!

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Glennis

1:18 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Right on, Jason! Don't listen to these bullies who never learned that the only rule Christ expects of all of us is love. When you can love, you can respect; when you respect, you cannot judge; when you cannot judge, you can accept; when you accept, you can BE loved by our Lord.

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Meinert

7:51 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Kevin- when I see statements like " the king james version of the bible which is the real version of the translation", I cannot help but smirk. I would suggest if you studied both chronology and the method of selecting/compiling what it now recognized as your bible, you might realize that there is no 'real' version.

Phil

8:59 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Jacqui Chew--Definition of Economic terrorism
From Wikipedia

The term economic terrorism is strictly defined to indicate an attempt at economic destabilization by a group. More precisely, in 2005 the Geneva Centre for Security Policy defined economic terrorism in the following terms:

Contrary to "economic warfare" which is undertaken by states against other states, "economic terrorism" would be undertaken by transnational or non-state actors. This could entail varied, coordinated and sophisticated or massive destabilizing actions in order to disrupt the economic and financial stability of a state, a group of states or a society (such as market oriented western societies) for ideological or religious motives. These actions, if undertaken, may be violent or not. They could have either immediate effects or carry psychological effects which in turn have economic consequences.[1]

The only difference is that a company--and not a state-- is being economically disrupted.

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Meinert

8:59 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I haven't purchased fuel from Exxon since the Valdez disaster. I don't shop at WalMart because of the innumerable small businesses it has put out of business. I won't purchase a Chick-fil-A product from now on. Though I concur with Phil's observation that 'hate' might be too strong a word here, If the CEO of a company makes his/her position known on a socially sensitive debate, he is smart enough to know that his/her firm may suffer consequences. If not, then he/she is shouldn't be the CEO, in my opinion. It is not the potential for backlash in cases such as these that makes for a modicum of tolerance (or the appearance thereof) on the part of the powerful and wealthy? Maybe I'm too optimistic.

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Erik

9:05 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Do you buy from Citgo (Cesar Chavez) or Angel Soft (Koch Bros.)?

Voting with your wallet and your feet is our prerogative and at least with Chikfila you know where they stand.

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

5:02 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

@Erik Wait, César Chávez owns Citgo? But he's been dead for 19 years! But of course, you weren't referring to the United Farm Workers founder (a lifelong resident of Arizona).

Virginia Sowell

9:12 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

This is not a matter of "agreeing or disagreeing with someone's opinion". It's a matter of equal rights for all citizens of this nation – gay, straight, black, white, male, female. When a corporation gives money to groups fighting to suppress equal rights, it is my moral obligation as a Christian to not funnel my money into such a business.

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Erik

9:17 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Your point, and the others that make it, resonates with me. On it's face, the comment is not hateful, their pol and financial support of a few groups will cause them to lose some customers. They could care less, they will make it up with new customers.

I feel sorry for some franchisees that get pinched.

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KMT

9:18 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Well said, Virginia! That is exactly how I feel.

InTown Chicklet

9:17 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

It is too bad that Chick Fil A is privately held, otherwise all would be able to see the ecomomic impact, en masse, of people choosing not to eat there and it would be reported in theiir public financial records. I suspect that the CFO has probably noticed a decline.... I don't anticipate CFA to do an about-face, ever.

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Manny

9:17 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

ChickfilA is free to voice their opinions and we are free to choose whether or not to spend our money there. That is freedom. It is as simple as that.

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Rosannrosannadanna

9:18 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Perhaps the practical issue for me in no longer eating Chick-fil-A while not also boycotting other companies for their contributions is that this is a business targeting a single issue. And although it took a little time for Mr. Cathy to come clean, it is all out now.

It becomes more difficult to boycott Target for contributing $150,000 to a PAC that supported Tom Emmert, former gubernatorial candidate in MN (who only lost by a few thousand votes) whose views were radically conservative (I mean cut from the same cloth as Michelle Bachmann). Target's view was that Emmert would be more pro-business than his opponent. Maybe not the wisest contribution given the sensitivity in politics today, but I can hardly make the case that Target is an ultra-conservative or gay-basing company based on this alone. I would need some corroborating evidence to make that conclusion.

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Clicker

9:25 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Dan Cathy is expressing the same opinion that until recently was held by Pres. Obama - before he found it politically expedient to change his position.

Were any of you concerned citizens campaigning actively against Obama before he flip-flopped on his beliefs? If not, did you consider yourself a hypocrite then - or do you consider yourself one now?

By the way, I am gay and think a person - and his/her private company have the right to express their political beliefs in the way that they want. Consumers also share the same right and can boycott whomever they wish. They should try to be consistent however.

I think that Cathy and Chick-Fil-A are catching so much grief right now because they are transparent in their Christian beliefs. And we all know that Christians are one of the most vilified groups by liberal society today. Don't we?

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Tim

10:31 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Actually Christians that villify and persecute other Americans are the ones that are villified by some in the liberal society. And likewise, Christians that accept and promote equality and opportunity for all Americans are the ones villified by some in the conservative society.

J. H.

9:26 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I stopped going to Chik fila a few years ago when the same thing came to light and I still won't go to Cracker Barrel even though I think they have reversed their anti-gay stance.

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Phil

9:33 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I boycott HBO because they have Bill Maher on. I do not try to organize a boycott--it is just my quiet protest that I do not want to support Maher in any way whatsoever. He is a one man Hate Group, imo.

I have the right to vote with my pocketbook. But my boycott will not harm any HBO employees, cable providers etc.

Chick Fil-a is going to pay for their owners' exercise of free speech based on their own religious beliefs. What is sad is that many here think that is just fine with them.

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Mac

9:46 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Kevin
Got education? If you have spell check, use it or get a dictionary. Is English your third or fourth language? Your attempts at sentence composition makes me sad.
Unplug your computer and go back to reading your bible. Keep your ignorance to yourself.

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Clicker

10:41 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

"Your attempts at sentence composition makes me sad."

This is a grammatically incorrect sentence Mac. Thanks for the laugh.

David Plunkett

9:58 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I abandoned my love for Chick-Fil-A--in particular, their lemonade, which makes THE best mixer for vodka--when this story first came to light a year or more ago. While my personal boycott doesn't effect their bottom-line, by sharing my displeasure with others via social media and other outlets, I am given the opportunity to open a dialogue about the issues that matter to me, in this case, of course, the right of lesbian and gay people to be treated equally under the law. For me, THAT is the benefit of a boycott.

(For the record, I found a copycat recipe for their lemonade online!)

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Richard Owens

10:48 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I have not patronized a Chik-Fil-A in 25 years - specifically, because of their homophobic rightwing political statements and policies.

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FM Fats

11:07 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

The Two Chicks Filet biscuit at Urban Cannibals was the shiznits. And the cheese grits were pure dynamite. Calavino and doria ftw!

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Phil

11:09 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values."--Rahm Emanuel

Now we all know how strong those Chicago values are! Nice pro Chick fil-A quote you got there, Rahm. LOL

Emanuel goes after Chick-fil-A for boss’ anti-gay views

The anti-gay views openly espoused by the president of a fast food chain specializing in chicken sandwiches have run afoul of Mayor Rahm Emanuel and a local alderman, who are determined to block Chick-fil-A from expanding in Chicago.

“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values,” Emanuel said Wednesday.

“What the CEO has said as it relates to gay marriage and gay couples is not what I believe, but more importantly, it’s not what the people of Chicago believe. We just passed legislation as it relates to civil union and my goal and my hope … is that we now move on recognizing gay marriage. I do not believe that the CEO’s comments … reflects who we are as a city.”

Ald. Joe Moreno (1st) is using the same argument to block Chick-fil-A from opening its first free-standing restaurant in Chicago’s Logan Square neighborhood.
“Same sex marriage, same-sex couples — that’s the civil rights fight of our time. To have those discriminatory policies from the top down is just not something that we’re open to. …We want responsible businesses,” Moreno said.

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Erik

11:30 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

"“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values,” Emanuel said Wednesday."

...However, if you stuff this envelope with something nice, we will re-evaluate our position....

This boner is being played to sway the November erection, with good reason - Dems surely don't want discuss the economy, that would surely deflate them.

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Dbc

11:12 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Love how you diss Rahm for his defence of same-sex couples but say nothing about Michael Bloomberg in NY who is trying to overtax and do away with the purchase of a Coca-Cola over 16 oz.!

FM Fats

11:32 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I am never going to Chick-Fil-A again. I asked them to hold the pickle and they wouldn't.

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Erik

11:33 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

That, my friend, is a keeper!

Atlanta Native

11:58 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I wish everyone would grab a handful of product from whichever company they support - Chick-fil-a or Oreo - shove it in your mouth and shut the f up!

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DN

12:05 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Mr.Cathy is entitled to his opinion just as we all are in this country where we are all supposed to still have freedom of speech. It seems that these days some folks only want to allow freedom of speech to those who agree with their social agenda. Mr. Cathy obviously has great conviction to the things he believes in, like not opening his stores on Sunday for religious reasons. Imagine how much more money he could rake in being open an extra day of the week, especially a week-end day. But he is obviously guided more by what he believes than money. He stated that he believes in the "biblical definition of marriage". Its his opinion folks, we all get one. If I made the same statement, nobody would care, but when someone like Dan Cathy says it he becomes a target. Not fair.

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Dbc

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

"entitled to his opinion" and freedom of speech is not the point, and not one in which we disagree. That he is heavily financing organizations and PACs which make it their cause to stomp on the civil liberties and rights of others is the point.

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Kyle

2:32 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

He is entitled to his opinion, and I am entitled to not buy from his company because I think his opinion sucks (and because he's using my money to deny basic rights). But I'm not denying him his freedom of speech by not buying his chicken.

Christina M

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

The interesting piece of this whole thing (as well as recent others like Rush, Shell Oil, etc) to me is the speed at which social media can spread information and mobilize people, which affects the economic drift and discourse at a blazing pace. We've always been able to "vote with our wallets" regarding businesses with which we agree or disagree. And it happens on both sides, liberal and conservative (don't forget the eight year Southern Baptist boycott of Disney over partner rights). There are lines in the sand that people sometimes feel they need to draw. I personally drew one at my beloved BBQ place in my hometown. I don't eat there or buy their product because of their white supremacy stance. I was ignorant as a child growing up, but now as an adult that makes me uncomfortable and I don't want to support it. Even though it's their right as a private business to offer that "enlightening message" in every location, and (here's the important connection) and they NEVER turn away a customer of any race or treat them with disrespect (sound familiar?). Gay rights is just a strong an issue for some as the women's rights movement or the civil rights movement. America is a melting pot. People are not always going to get the homogenous culture that makes them feel comfortable. I can be a Christian and still love gay people and want them to have equal legal status.

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Tim

12:30 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Christina, great post!

Phil

12:44 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I have gay friends, but it does not mean that I support gay marriage or I should HAVE to to continue to be their friends. I support civil unions wholeheartedly.

I think that sometimes in the focus on minority rights--we lose sight of MAJORITY rights. Minorities and majorities have an EQUAL right to free speech.

Or, at least, you would think that were true.

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Tim

3:41 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Phil, we all agree everyone has free speach in this country. Also, giving minorities equal rights does not in any way infringe on the rights of the majority, however that is defined.

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Dbc

11:22 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

But if you do have gay friends, you should respect their right to choice and to live a full life with all of the liberties others enjoy without a thought. Their loves are not less incomplete that yours, and they should live out their lives with their Love without having to worry about being left out of the hospital room or the many other slights they endure daily.

Christina M

1:03 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Phil, I agree. A church should not be forced to perform a gay marriage if it is against the core values to do so. However, I'm so curious now - what is a MAJORITY right? And this is not meant to be snotty in any way, I truly am wanting to know. How are your rights as a (presumably white heterosexual christian male from your wording but that is a total assumption) MAJORITY component of American society adversely affected by creating equal rights for MINORITIES - what rights are being removed from you? People vocalizing against your opinion is actually not the removal of the right of free speech (as Tibetians can assuredly attest to) - you are not detained, arrested, etc. It might make you feel defensive and sad, but it's not withholding a right. However, denying a same sex partner hospital visitation rights? That's a different story...

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don Gabacho

2:26 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

"However, denying a same sex partner hospital visitation rights? That's a different story."---Christina M.

So you have to be married? When an exchange of notarized letters granting unimpeded visitation rights can do?

kim perdue

1:33 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

It bothers me that Chef Calavino Donati and her wife lumped Cathy in with this group: "outrageous and hateful things being said by fairly powerful people". What he said was neither hateful or outrageous. It simply stated where they stand.

While I am 100% supportive of same sex marriage, I hate to see folks vilify the guy. I kind of respect him taking a stand. With everything they publicly stand for, not to do so would have been very ambiguous and even opportunistic. Nice to see one of these conservative religious types actually “walking the walk” whether it hurts business or not!

Freedom of speech can cut both ways and just because he is invoking his rights does not make him a Gay-basher. And we should be careful not to swing prejudice in that direction by lumping him in with the truck load if nitwits out there that are voicing irrational and hurtful opinions.

Just my two cents.

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don Gabacho

2:30 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

What astonishes me is the effect the demands and media blitz, without any remorse, had on the poor PR fellow who, once burdened with the moronic frenzy, dropped dead of a heart attack.

The frenzy sort of reminds me of "Lord of the Flies."

It can't be children's hour forever.

Tom Doolittle

2:11 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I'd like to know if the pols that say their won't be any CFA's in Chicago and Boston know whether that's what people in those areas want. It's also not government's role to ban businesses over something I see as relatively esoteric and very easily misunderstood (no matter how much a hot-button)--and "small potatoes" in the practical world if you prefer.

With respect to supporting this advocacy group or that one--it is too easy to identify a financial supporter with a single issue--when their support is actually offered for the amalgam of their positions and actions. I'm a libertarian, but most certainly don't support some of the platform of the Libertarian Party--at least to the extent it chooses to simplified it for public consumption.

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David Bundrick

2:23 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I try to avoid eating farm raised animals, so I have not eaten at Chick-fil-a for a long time, except for an occasional order of fries. Now there won't even be that. I will no more patronize a homophobic company than I would join a Whites only organization.

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Phil

4:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

If you support gay civil unions--does that mean you are homophobic, David?

I am trying to learn the rules. If someone does not believe as you do, does that mean he is a member of a hate group?

Are you homophobic if you have gay friends, but do not support gay marriage?

Howard Johnson

3:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I regret that there is no possible way I can patronize C-F any less than I have for all of my life.

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jimmie

4:05 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I love Chick fil a, their people, their product and their values. I encourage anyone who wants to read this ignorant tripe to research the "hate groups" they support; all of which simply stand for traditional family values. For those who think they discriminate, go into a chick-fil-a, look for the signs that say "no gays allowed", "gay chicken line", "hetero bathroom"..you won't find them. What you'll find is a clean cut human, in a clean restaurant smiling as they take your order and thats probably because they love where they work. The only bullies, the only discriminators, are the gays who try to bully the opinion of others into accepting theirs.. If you like chicken, but you don't believe in chick-fil-a's values (which our country was founded on by the way) then open up a competitor called chick-fil-gay and compete. All I can say is don't get in my way in the morning, noon and evening of April 1 when I plan on dropping $100 into their corporate coffers where I know the proceeds will be used to support Christian efforts! Go Cathys!

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Tim

5:00 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

So Jimmie, you support the government using force to deny equal rights to gays and lesbians like Mr Cathy does every time he donates millions of dollars to groups fighting equal rights?

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Howard Johnson

4:33 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Nothing funny about Lester, though his glasses were peculiar.
"Lester Maddox says it's not about race"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m3JCPrQ3zs
At 2:35 you'll here the pro-CF argument's roots.

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Howard Johnson

8:57 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

http://vimeo.com/41514058
Our grandchildren will watch videos of Chik filet and wonder, "who were those yahoos?"

Mary G

4:21 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

To each his own, do what ever turns you on. To be are not to be, stand on your own 2 feet and let every one else do the same.This is a free country and we have a right to our own belief,s . Stop the crying and let ,s get on with life.

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Karen

4:48 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

15-20 years ago gay marriage was unheard of. For centuries every civilized society in the world as we know it accepted without question or concern that marriage consist of a female and a male. We now have groups of citizens who have decided that based on their belief system it's time to redefined marriage in America and everyone should support and embrace their beliefs, failure to do so constitues hatred and discrimination of the group,how insane is that? What if another well organized group of citizens decide that it's now time for adult men and women to marry young boys and girls ,their sibblings, their children, the possibilities are endless, do with go against what we have been taught to believe is an unacceptable practice or does the majority rule because they get out and vote on election day? I am a Christian who accepts Gods definition of marriage. Do I hate homosexual? No. I am respectful of all people. Would I discriminate against someone because of their sexual orientation? No, so why is it acceptable for Gay Right Activist to discriminate and be hate towards those who believe differently from them.

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Tim

4:58 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Karen, so you must accept that you are the property of your husband, or have you personally redifined the definition of traditional marriage? Are you also opposed to people of different races or religions marrying, or have you also redefined that? And if you are restricting the rights and responsibilities of marriage via the force of the governement to only a man and a women, then yes, you are discriminating. It is becoming silly when you declare that gay rights activists are discriminating by voicing their opinions, and yet you support the full force and control of the governement to limit equal rights.

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jimmie

5:17 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I wholeheartedly agree with the premise of the alteration of beliefs being forced upon society by a minority of gay tyrants, However, I disagree in that I will do whatever is legal and possible to stop the pervasive destruction of the family unit. Does that mean I don't patronize gay owned businesses? You're darn right. Does that mean I stand up for my beliefs even if it means offending the gays? You're darn right. What people need to realize is that the only way to stop the spread of the destruction of the family is to stand for what is right and vote gays leaders out of government, put their businesses out of business by not patronizing them and refuse to accept their "choice" as being something that you must accept. In short, turn the tables without calling them names or making threats or crying to momma..take a stand against gays in the ballot box, with your wallets and with your prayers and God will prevail.

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Meinert

6:00 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Karen. First let me debunk your notion that homosexuality (or its recognition) is somehow new and invented in the last 3 decades. That is completely false.

Second, you say, "We now have groups of citizens who have decided that based on their belief system it's time to redefined marriage in America and everyone should support and embrace their beliefs." Isn't that EXACTLY what the 'christians' have done for years in this country? Example, sales on Sunday-prohibited for decades because of 'christians' and their definition of right and wrong. What if you are Jewish and your holy day is Saturday? Your group did this sort of thing for quite some time--dating back to the time when 'christians' dating back to Copernicus and the Church's incorrect notions.

Third, please don't tell me that your 'accept God's definition of marriage', because you only accept your version of christianity's christian version of marriage. To say that you know what God wants is completely unprovable and just a bit pompous.

Ann Wood

5:18 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

The comments of the gay marriage supporters (not all but a large majority) on here are representative of the intensity, ferocity and unfair practices of this group. Supporting traditional marriage is being pro-traditional marriage not anti anything. But from the reading of these comments you would think pro-traditional marriage supporters (including all 33 states that have voted on this issue) meet nightly under a full moon to disembowel gay people. It's all about Hate and Unfairness and sniff, sniff supporting causes that resemble setting up separate fountains for gays and straights. This is the hallmarks of a small, loud and unreasonable minority who are trying to bully and over-speak those who have the temerity to not see things EXACTLY their way. Frankly, the more they speak, the less want to hear. Even if I didn't like CFA I would start eating there weekly. As it is, that will not be a sacrifice. Nothing less than free speech is at stake here. Enough with the bullying.

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Meinert

5:47 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Ann. Well said. Theatrics and histrionics aside, is it not true to say that being pro-traditional marriage is by definition also being anti-gay marriage? If one takes one side/position, it is impossible in any debate to not be at the same time against the opposing position.

BTW, loud and unreasonable can be found in *every* camp, though I observe that such adjectives cannot be used to describe your post.

Ann Wood

5:56 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Meinert, thanks for the kind words. I accept that being pro-traditional marriage would mean that you do not support gay marriage. Which.....I maintain is not the same as being anti-gay. While it appears that Jimmie and I are traditionalists, we do not agree on our approach to homosexuality. I don't care what the sexual orientation of a business owner is, just as I don't care about their race, religion - whatever. I care about how they treat me. I frequent businesses that support causes I don't agree with. It's a free country. And part of why I feel so strongly about the response to CFA's remarks and position is that it is time to stand up to the bullying of the most strident gay marriage proponents and their supporters. Their approach allows for no deviation from what they have determined is the ONLY way to approach their issue. No one has accused CFA of any kind of discrimination and the outcry against them is unfair, wrong and waaaaaaay over the line. Again, I say enough with the bullying.

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Meinert

6:14 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I'm not into bullying either, and while I don't condone the loud and the unreasonable (and also while I really don't know how tough it is to be LGBT, being in a traditional marriage for 20 yrs) I do wonder what is appropriate in terms of tactics for smaller groups of our society seeking to achieve similar 'rights' to larger groups.

And your point is well taken: being for traditional definition of marriage (and therefore against a progressive definition of marriage) does not, in and of itself, mean anti-gay.

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jimmie

8:49 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Thanks Ann. View me as a traditionalist enforcer :)... I believe God will view you kinder than me when we get up there. Kudos to you

Howard Johnson

6:44 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

My marriage does not need protection from anybody else's marriage, but I can understand - given the history of Republican marriages falling victim to gayness, diaperedness, prostitutioness, young male pageness, and just plain Newtiness - that the Right-wing heirs to the thought-processes of Lester Maddox are naturally frightened of what someone else's happiness means to the sanctity of their own marriage. And, paradoxically, how they lose sleep over a government which they claim intrudes dangerously on their personal rights!

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jimmie

8:50 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Rather have 4 women than 1 man anyday, larry berry

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Howard Johnson

9:15 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I didn't see any reference to Kolob, Roger, or anything about the fact that Mormons believe a spirit must live as a male humanoid on an earth-like planet before becoming a god himself. Living a good life helps prove his worth to Heavenly father, the omniscient human god of the planet KOLOB, who, by default, always doubts the worthiness of all souls that he created. Romney is a Mormon Bishop, btw.

jimmie

8:56 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

hey tim..how does the govt use force against gays...seems to be what you guys duck behind when youre shooting off your filthy mouths

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Tim

9:12 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Jimmie, its very simple. The government demands by threat of force that a gay person pay into social security their hard earned money, and they deny paying any of these funds to their partner or spouse in case they die. The government demands that gay couples spend more of their earned money in order to pay for legal documents fro rights that married couples get automatically in Vegas or after waiting in line for 3 minutes at the county courthouse. The government demands that in order for gays to transfer their home to their partner upon death that the estate pay a much much higher death tax than a married coupled that have been married only one day. And yes this is a massive transfer of weath from single earners to married couples by the threat of the full force of the law, including imprisonment if gays do not pay this extra tax. next...

Mac

9:01 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Clicker
Explain, Clicker. I look forward to your reply.

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Mac

9:07 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Clicker
I seriously doubt you're gay; you're a poser. I am still awaiting you to critique my English, Clicker...click...click...click.

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jimmie

9:22 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

So Timmie, why wouldn't a person who has married thier pet dog have any different argument than you. Thats why we have laws buddy. Social mores that influence the laws. You want me to pay for the unique risks that come from you being gay, elect officials that will pass those laws. That is exactly the reason I will exercise every legal manuveir I can to keep gays from gaining control of anything..your entire gay agenda is perverse to the morals the country was founded on and thus I search endlessly for gay friendly businesses to avoid and candidates that are gay friendly to vote against. Haven't been to Home Depot in four years and will never go back..I am at war against your agenda? You're damn right I am

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Tim

9:29 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Well Jimmie, if you talk to your pet dog and he goes with you to get a marriage license and says that he agrees to marry you, then we'd like to see that.

Tim

9:24 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I, like most of my co-workers and friends are pro-traditional marriage. We agree that its great when two people of the opposite sex fall in love and marry and have a family. It is sad generally when some divorce. We of course are also pro same sex marriage, and agree its great when two people of the same sex fall in love and get married when they want and start a family. Of course its easy in Georgia and across the U.S. for same sex couples to get married, lots of churches perform these marriages, and an increasing number of states. The main issue is that the federal government will not allow equal right and responsibilities for married same sex couples. It is of course free speach when Mr Cathy spends his or corporate money to try and infulence the governement to deny these rights, and Americans are free to protest and speak against him and his company. That is why it is so important that we have the Constitution and Bill of Rights, even though our government does not always follow them.

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Eric M

9:33 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

While I've chosen to dine elsewhere for over 20 years, I don't thinks it's going to matter much longer:

http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719

It's worth a read.

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Ann Wood

9:36 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Hey Larry Welsh, if you're going to Mormon bash at least get your "facts" straight. Gays are sacrosanct and Mormons are open season - so tolerant and open minded.

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Howard Johnson

10:00 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Ann, I never bashed the Mormons, and if you can refute that they believe what I said, then please do so. You are an expert on gays, and I accept your authority on them and the fact that they are hellbound, along with people like myself who think who they love is only their business. Mormons think that we were all spirit children of a human god before we were implanted in a meat body to prove ourselves wotrthy by a life of good works. That's what they believe, and I have no opinion on that one way or another. Not bashing, just saying.

Mac

9:43 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

@Eric M
I read that. It reminded me of Rev. 6:12-17.

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Eric M

10:40 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I dated a handsome, sucessful guy once. He seemed very troubled; an inner sadness of which he would never speak. We parted as he seemed almost void, unreacheable. Then, someone told me to watch a movie called "Latter Days." I found it a bit disturbing. I thought southern baptists were bad.

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Eric M

10:55 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Clarification: The guy was Morman.

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Dbc

11:38 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012

I wrote the following earlier, but since this blog has gone downhill I thought it might be worth a revisit..If you do have gay (or minority, religious or otherwise) friends, you should respect their right to choice to live a full life with all of the liberties others enjoy without a thought. Their loves are not less incomplete that yours, and they should be able to live out their lives with their Love without having to worry about being left out of the hospital room, economic advantages, children in which only one parent is "official", or the many other slights they endure daily. Judgement, unfortunately, comes all to easily...a life not lead in the mainstream is not easy, and I celebrate you! It is not a choice, it is who you are.

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Jane D

1:06 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

It is a sad day in America when someone who believes in upholding marriage between a man and a woman is perversely and viciously attacked and maligned. Sad indeed. God help us all.

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Dbc

1:28 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

you miss the point, when has marriage between man+woman ever been perversely viciously attacked or maligned? Um, never? Aren't you glad you are in the majority?

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Dbc

1:37 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

actually, now that I think about it, you are no longer in the majority since 50+% of Americans (red + blues states) now agree in marriage equality!

Oakhurst Curator

7:05 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Yes. We boycotted the City of Decatur and all of the businesses paying taxes there. Why? Because we oppose the city's tacit approval of gentrification in Oakhurst and the impacts on the environment and economically disadvantaged people there by opportunistic builders. Our boycott included selling our home, moving out of the city, and the commitment to never spend another dime in Decatur. We don't expect any changes to the way Decatur does business as a result of our boycott and we expect nothing but ridicule for the position we've taken.

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Tim

8:41 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Thorn, I respect your choice and actions. Please let us know the general location/city that you moved to where the government does not promote building, improvements, etc. Not being sarcastic, just wondering. Thanks!

jimmie

8:19 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Hey DBC..if you ar correct, why has the marriage amendment prohibiting marriage between two individuals of the same "gender" failed 32 of 32 times. Keep trying, but at the end of the day you are nothing more than a bully who couldn't boycott your way out of a wet paper cup. Go CFA!!!!

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Dbc

2:18 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Who's the bully Jimmie? Just because the politicians are too afraid the Teabag superPACs will use their anonymous $$ to bring them down if they vote with the majority doesn't mean it's not true.

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Dbc

12:19 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

again, Jimmie...who is the bully...I thougt you had sobered up?

jimmie

8:19 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Should say it has passed 32 of 32 times

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Frankie Lester

11:03 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

Supporting groups that are anti-gay or anti-black or anti-Jewish....any minority is wrong and hatre filled and discriminatory. BOYCOTT the company.

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bulldogger

11:13 am on Friday, July 27, 2012

@Tim
12:28 pm on Thursday, July 26, 2012
to bulldogger, please read the above forum for a good example. Mr. Truett has donated millions of dollers to the campaign in California to overturn gay marriage, specifically to deny gay couples the rights and responsibilities such as inheritance, social security and hospital visitation rights that married couples enjoy just by getting a legal document controlled, issued and enforced by the government.

To Tim - Tim, I was very "Explicit".....I asked you to cite a Code/Law that was put into effect - your original post is below.

@Tim

8:49 am on Thursday, July 26, 2012

Seems like if you want to forcefully deny equal rights and opportunities to certain groups you personally do not approve of, and if you spend corporate and personal funds to promote the use of government force and power to acheive these personal goals, that is a good definition of hate.

I'm still asking you to do that - Do you give to your Church, Tim? Do you always agree with how your money is spent? If not, do you let your church leaders know of your displeasure? Are you a hypocrite?

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Tim

1:05 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

bulldogger, a much repeated specific law that he donated to defeat concerning gay marriage is the law in California, referred to as Prop 8... please research it. His efforts to defeat this law (which by the way is not in the state he lives in) was to specifically deny same sex couples the option of marriage and its very specific legal, monetary and security benefits.

Ann Wood

12:24 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Frankie, why is it only supporting groups that don't benefit a Minority is wrong. How about a group seeking to harm or just not support a majority. Either way the group is made up of individual people. The overuse of the word hate is rendering it meaningless. Not being pro gay marriage is not hate. Unless of course, you would classify not being pro Christian, pro Mormon, pro Islam hate and discriminatory. You need to get off your soapbox and consider the bigger picture. America is still a free country - for now - and people can donate to the causes they believe in. Be it pro traditional marriage or pro gay marriage. I don't support gay marriage but I still shop at Target and JC Penney even though I don't agree with their positions on this issue. The vitriol and pettiness harms your cause not help. Sounds like you need a good chicken sandwich, I recommend CFA.

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Ann Wood

12:25 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Eric, your Mormon bashing is very unattractive.

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Howard Johnson

12:47 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Ann, your characterization of Eric's comments (and mine) as anti-Mormon is false. I wish you'd stop it, even if you are entirely within your rights to make such false statements. You could, I suppose, have chosen to support your accusations by taking the time to attack our statements instead of attacking us, and I'd welcome such a discussion if you choose to do so. The precedence for a discussion of a candidate's faith comes from the Right, who have repeatedly declared such discussion as vital in understanding the philosophy and motivation of their own slate during primaries, and in respect to President Obama (do I need to cite examples or can we stipulate that as fact?).

Silence Dogood

12:59 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I'm sorry but who exactly are same gender couples hurting, absolutely no one, zippo, nada, actually the only ones being hurt are the self righteous.

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Steve

2:32 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

To nobody's surprise, the Decatur operators published a form letter, which obviously came from CFA corporate. Here's the letter publisher by the Hollywood location: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/314713_471844662835248_1484382020_n.jpg

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Howard Johnson

2:57 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Dan Cathy assures his franchisees, and his franchisees assure us, that Cathy's personal views are his own. Mr. Cathy has recently decided to (or just accidentally did) put his mouth where his money has been going for years. The decision everyone needs to make is whether Mr. Cathy's chicken is so delicious that we will give him even more money to put toward supporting his views. FWIW, I don't drink beers made by the Coors family because of their whacked out politics, and I haven't suffered nor have they. CFA will survive, and perhaps even thrive because of their founding families' hatred, but they'll just have to do so without my help. I hope they'll change their minds. Pray with me:
"Earth to KOLOB, Earth to KOLOB, Come in KOLOB! Please influence the spirit people who inhabit the meat vehicles in charge of CFA corporation to desist in their war against the gay meat people. Alternatively, please ask Mitt to wield his influence on your behalf next time you two chat. Thank-you, Over and Out."

Bob Peppel

3:54 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Nancy,
I would be curious to know what hate-filled organizations Dan Cathey gives his money to.

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Péralte Paul

4:04 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

@ Larry Welsh: I think there's a difference between Coors and CfA. The Coors family was bankrolling pseudoscience research supporting the belief that blacks and Jews and other peoples deemed "impure" were genetically different, inferior and lower evolved strains of the human race. CfA's leader is taking what he believes is a moral stance on religious grounds. I don't at all agree with his position but I think there's a difference betwixt Coors and Cathy. (Of course, I may be justifying my love of their chicken sandwiches.)

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Howard Johnson

4:20 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

@ PP, I have no dispute thet the CFA's leader is free to spend the money he gets from customers via his franchisees however he likes. Ditto Coors. I will choose to do my best to see that none of mine makes it into their hands, and when the subject comes up in polite company I will do my best to influence others to consider doing the same.

Tammy

4:26 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Among the many groups to receive donations through Chick-fil-A's WinShape Foundation, which was created by Chick-fil-A founder and chairman S. Truett Cathy in 1984, were the Marriage & Family Foundation ($1,188,380), Exodus International ($1,000) and the Family Research Council (also $1,000), Equality Matters reported.

Meanwhile, The New Civil Rights Movement's David Badash presents an even more disturbing figure: that Chick-fil-A has donated an estimated $5 million to anti-gay organizations and hate groups between 2003 and 2010.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/chick-fil-a-anti-gay-group-donations-_n_1644609.html

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jimmie

4:43 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Got to Love Mr. Cathy!!!!!! LOve it....bring down the house of the Big Gay..yes sir..Be dropping $200 there next Wednesday!!!

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Péralte Paul

4:29 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

@ Larry Welsh, I thought I was the only one boycotting Coors.

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jimmie

4:47 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

God, we are not ready for another Saddam and Gommarah. Forgive those who mock you and your message. And thank you for the strength of the founders of Chick-fil-a. May it rise among the embers that you leave of our world.

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Blah, Blah, Blah

12:36 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Sorry I forgot to add so you might as well boycott the Fire Department, Police Department and Hospitals while you are boycotting Home Depot!

Ann Wood

5:09 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Tammy. Sorry but huffpo is not a credible source.

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Dbc

11:33 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

and fox "news?" or rush is? I'll take Huff any day!

Ann Wood

5:10 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Going to chicks for dinner tonight. Think I'll buy extra just for fun.

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Dbc

12:22 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

You'll be standing in line w/ Jimmie! He's up to spending $500 @ chix

Burton Martin

7:37 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I have not been to Chick-Fil-A in quite a while but today I had some delicious "Chick-Fil-A" "Chicken Nuggets" & plan to do so regularly. I do not have anything against homosexuals, I respect their right to do whatever they want in private, but I respect my right and others rights to believe and speak their mind. It seems there is a large portion of the population which believes that as long as you agree with them everything is fine. I suspect Al Qaeda would not tolerate either sides of this issue.

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Appalachian-American

7:39 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I can't believe the "thought police " at the Patch deleted my comments... I guess you all have to think alike to get posted. It is absolutley insane.. Go back to wackin your .....

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Dbc

11:37 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Patch is not a place to make racist statements...I saw many of them on my update email that were thankfully deleted before I got back to this blog. Thank you Patch moderator for being on the ball!

Ann Wood

8:16 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Our dinner at Chicks was delish!!! Burton loved your comment. The extreme response to this is very troubling and more people need to speak out against this level of intimidation.

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Dbc

12:43 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Yes, Ann, you are right, more people need to speak out regarding intolerance and intimidation from those who have a different view than you...and I am. As a woman in a 20+ year "traditional" marriage, I stand up for marriage equality for all, for sure!

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Howard Johnson

10:32 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Glad you enjoyed your dinner. No doubt the crowd was like-minded, and hopefully the line was a bit shorter and a lot less gay!

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Tara

8:26 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

I'm curious Ann are you divorced or on your 2nd husband? One thing you and JIMMY might be overlooking is Mr. Cathy only values and 1and only 1 husband or wife!

Camille

8:28 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Remember to support Chick-fil-A next week Wednesday (8/1/12)!

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Silence Dogood

8:46 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I weep for your children they have no chance...

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jimmie

9:05 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Chick fil a. Wednesday. I'm buying! Any hot lesbian can kiss me too! Go Cathys!

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Tara

8:30 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

I got a news flash Jimmy there's no Lesbian period who would want to kiss you!

jimmie

9:52 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

That would be you tommy boy...i enjoy things the righteous way

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Dbc

11:01 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

Let's not be naive and understand that this issue is a happy smoke screen to much bigger issues. Huge anonymous PAC $$ are being spent to "redistrict" areas around the country and votes are being manipulated with force. Check out the ALEC.org site...frightening! Their lawyers are writing legislation as we speak and the politicos they heavily support are blindly running it through every state legislation. Did you really believe those you vote for are really running things? Scary indeed! Whatever your politics, do you want the big bucks running your life??

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Howard Johnson

11:38 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

I really don't see any need to get Georgians even more agitated about the bad Liberals who intend to disarm them, force them into gay relationships, make them pay something toward their own damned health care insurance, turn them muslamic & try them in Sharia courts, fluoridate their water, mix their races, educate their children, take away their pit bulls, increase their gas mileage, force them to breathe cleaner air, and a million other evil and unnatural things. For the Lord is coming to rescue the righteous. So, relax.

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Dbc

12:30 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Maybe that I am a Georgian liberal (not bad in my book) but I do think I have a point!

Dbc

11:57 pm on Friday, July 27, 2012

@ Larry, I have no idea what you are talking about?

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Howard Johnson

12:19 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Your scared. You need to chill out.

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Dbc

12:48 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

yes, I am scared. But I do believe that our children are not. They are the voice of the future. They are chill and open...looking forward!

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Howard Johnson

12:59 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

I have no idea what you are talking about

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Dbc

1:16 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

@Larry, Touche...however, I think we are closer in thinking than we seem!

Dbc

12:20 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

I would not agree to disarm you...however, I would disagree that you should be able to mail order 60,000 rounds over the internet. Who forces anyone into a gay relationship...maybe Sandusky and those who turn their heads the other way. Insurance...we pay, as a hetro family unit with one child $2,000/month (maybe you can understand why I might hope for a different future for healthcare). I don't have a pit bull but do believe that every dog is precious...spay + neuter!

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Dbc

11:10 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

@Roger That...??? you missed my point and, unfortunately, I missed my comma.

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Dbc

12:56 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

@ Roger That, And, of course, Roger This, you do know? What has caused wars...maybe misguided so called "Weapons of Mass Destruction".?

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Dbc

11:26 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

@roger that...not sure what you are talking about psychiatric treatments...maybe yours? Have no idea how to carry around any amount of fire arms over internet...you have me there?

Ellie

10:33 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Maybe the real problem is that this country needs a new god to worship. Maybe we can borrow the Canadians' god for a while. Those heathen, pot-smoking, hockey-loving, same-sex marrying Canadians have had it too good for the past few years. They have a modern constitution, have had same-sex marriage for years and yet their god blesses them with a AAA credit rating, sounder financial system, vast natural resources, longer life expectancy, no financial meltdown, etc., etc.. The people up there seem so happy! How do we tap into that??

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Ann Wood

8:18 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Or maybe we could just borrow their Prime Minister and legislators who allow them to access their energy resources. Marriage and their credit rating? Really. But if they'd like to have Obama and his energy policies I might just change my stance on gay marriage. I think that's how we tap into their happiness.

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Dbc

1:58 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Yes, Ellie! @ Ann, no comment because you wouldn't understand anyway!

JamesMichael

10:57 am on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Ellie.
Terrific observation!
...and quite easily the most subversive idea since Samuel Adams.

Looking forward to reading more of what you have to say.
docker
Keep

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jimmie

1:09 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Spending $300 at Chick fil a on Wednesday!!!

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jimmie

1:19 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Great idea docker! Where can I find your mom? Is she the one wrapped in the rainbow undies with a picture of you and lester over her bed? Or is that the double wide where daddy lives with his two daddies?

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jimmie

1:20 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Say hey to the creative basket weaving club there docker..

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Silence Dogood

1:30 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

I hope you don't live in Tucker.

DunwoodyWorkingMan

2:52 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Jimmie lives in Doraville, not Dunwoody. He lives close to Tilly Mill, behind the Home Depot and near the mosque. That's why he is so bitter.

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Tom Doolittle

3:12 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Hi Sam:
"I grew up in Dunwoody and it is a community that prides itself on acceptance and tolerance."
Why stop at acceptance and tolerance? It's a community that prides.
"Smart"

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Clicker

4:12 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Mr. Cathy has expressed the same views on gay marriage that Pres. Obama expressed up until recently.

I'll ask again - why was there no outrage over Obama's beliefs before he flip-flopped for political reasons?

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JamesMichael

5:11 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Clicker.
You are mistaken.
Obama's views were "nuanced".
Even thought that's only a one-syllable word, the concept behind it is subtle.
I averred, for example, that his views were "evolving", and had been for some time.

Cathy, on the other hand, is a clumsy Bible-Thumper.
That you are unable to distinguish these is clear and compelling evidence that you are a lazy thinker. Your opinions merit no consideration whatsoever.

No offense, I hope.

jimmie

4:24 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Clicker, don't even try with the gays. They are the most intolerant of the traditional family (which Obama is not as he pays their bills) of any group on earth. It is harder to see through crystal then see through them. They are sick, intolerant, creatures roaming the earth seeing who they can devour next. Fortunately, society is still too strong for them to penetrate. Well, time to eave the circle jer- for now, wife wants to go out and eat..at chick-fil-a..one upside to the homosexuals ranting like a stuck pig over cfa..it will cost me a lot less to eat out tonight with the smoking hot wife...thanks happy boys!!!

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Dbc

1:06 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

who is the most intolerant...seems to be you, Jim's! Never seen anyone one more intolerant that you! "Bless your heart?!"

JamesMichael

4:45 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

I love you, Jimmie.
Your demented ravings provide entertainment for the sane and sober among us. We need that from time to time if only to scope our blessings.

I wish you well, Jimmie.
My Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus the Risen Christ, visit The Compassion of His Last Hours upon your soul. May His Eternal Love find Its Way to your heart. May He suppress The Holy Gag Reflex as He ponders the blackness of your heart and the smallness of your mind.

Amen.

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jimmie

5:51 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

another 8 nuggets of joys with traditional heteros..tell me dockers, if a 3 yr girl has two daddies, who takes her to the little girls room?

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Ellie

3:17 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

If a 3 yr old girl has *just* a daddy, who takes her to the little girls room?

jimmie

6:12 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Go Cathys!!!! See you all on Wednesday! and Thursday and Friday...and on and on and on..

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Berrygal

6:48 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Today I ate at Chick-Fil-A's for the first time with my family. It is a bit out of my way, but in light of the political madness, I truly felt it necessary. The restaurant was packed with people of all races and genders. The line was out the door and far down into the mall. We will eat where we choose to eat. The staff was very friendly and the restaurant was so clean despite the enormous crowd. No one asked me if I was gay or straight when I placed my order. (No one has ever been asked if they are gay or straight at Chick-Fil-A restaurants.) The food was wonderful and we will be back. They have a peach milkshake that is out of this world. I am glad that I found a new place to take my family for an enjoyable meal. I will not allow myself to be bullied by a bunch of hate mongering bigots who feel that the wonderful tradions of this country are meaningless. My opinion has nothing to do with religion. The gay lobby is determined to attack Christians, much like Hitler attacked Jews. Civil Unions never were enough for the LGBT who are fighting to become something they will never be- heterosexual. This group is a national embarrassment. I feel that they are the gay equivalent of the KKK. They are an outrage to decent gays everywhere- several of whom are my friends.

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Mike_Midtown

3:51 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

I guarantee that if your gay friends saw this post, they would not be your friends any more.

Tim

7:13 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Sorry Berrygal, to compare gays to Hilter is so off the charts that you have instanty made you comments worthless.

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jimmie

7:16 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Berrygal is a national treasure....Go back Wednesday if you want to see a LINE!!!

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Howard Johnson

11:11 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

Hey, looky heah! Amazon.com founder and CEO Jeff Bezos and his wife, MacKenzie, announced Friday they are donating $2.5 million to the campaign to defend Washington's same-sex marriage law.
I reckon if Jimmie stops buying books Amazon stock's gonna go down like a smokin' hot wife.

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Ann Wood

7:19 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Larry, Well, then I guess all heteros and their supporters should boycott Amazon and vilify Bezos as a hater because they clearly hate traditional marriage. I "reckon" that a serious boycott by conservatives and christians would definitely affect their bottom line. But hey, all's fair. It's HATE we're talking about, right. And after all, their's no free speech anymore. There's just hate and the haters who spread hate. Don't you love the word, it's become so much more meaningful.

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Howard Johnson

7:36 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

OK, Ann, I'll try to engage you in conversation (2 x you've declined, so far). Although it seems quite obvious to me that there would be quite a difference in people boycotting CfA to send a message that their Chairman and Founder's material support of groups opposed to the basic freedoms and rights of loving couples to care for one another and those who might boycott Amazon because it's founder and chairman supports those people. You see, one group hates hate and loves love, and Jimmie's and your group loves hate and hates love.
It's a Very Simple Concept!

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Ann Wood

8:14 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Larry, I can see that based on your previous comments you embrace simple concepts. And so, to you, it's all so simple about hating hate and loving love (where's my plain white t shirt and marker when I need it?). Except it's isn't. I'll type slowly - no one is hating love and loving hate. Again, Larry, no one. It's so simple. No one is preventing gay couples from caring for one another, nor are they trying to decry anyone's action in supporting their causes. But one group (guess which one) is apoplectic if those who take the other position "dare" to support their position. Marriage is one man and one woman - anything else is another arrangement - one which people are free to make but not a marriage. And, yes, I know, hate hate hate hate. It's all getting boring. Boring - that's two syllables - just for clarity.

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Howard Johnson

8:51 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Some people feel that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence clearly recognize that same sex couples have inherent inalienable rights to the legal protection and societal benefits of marriage. Other people feel that those rights should be denied and put their money where their mouth is, in the case we are debating, that person is the head of CfA. Some members of the first group don't want any of their money to flow through to that evil hateful cause, and so will boycott the fast food outfit in question. No biggie. The only way you suffer any personal harm is if you are a franchisee of CfA, and that would be an unintended consequence.
There's nothing violent or crazy about not eating a particular brand of fast food. If you want to boycott Amazon, go for it!
In the long run, I think I'm on the right side of this argument. Only time will tell.

Ellie

11:50 pm on Saturday, July 28, 2012

I would really like to know why Canada is doing so well -- they've had same sex marriage for the past seven years and their society hasn't fallen apart and, in fact, is doing very well relative to the U.S. Why hasn't their god allowed terrible things to happen to them? I just don't get it....

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Ann Wood

1:46 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Docker. Obamas position on gay marriage has been "nuanced" but Cathys is clumsy. And you are insulting others intelligence. Your comment is ignorant and foolish and the fact that you believe that drivel is evidence of your Inability to discern truthiness from truth. Please tell me you don't vote.

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Ann Wood

7:05 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

You use the word nuance for Obama's lying. He said he supported traditional marriage when it was advantageous to getting elected and now he supports gay marriage because he perceives it as being advantageous to his re-election. He is for sale to the highest bidder. Your defense of his position/political posturing reveals you as an intellectual cypher. Obama cares not one whit about gays and their so-called marriage. He cares about his job and the attendant perks.

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JamesMichael

6:49 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Obama, 1998: State Senate re-election:
"Undecided"...in response to an "Outlines Questionnaire" asking, "Do you favor legalizing same-sex marriage?

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JamesMichael

6:49 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Obama, 02/02/04 (an interview in The Windy City Times)
"I am a fierce supporter of domestic-partnership and civil-union laws. I am not a supporter of gay marriage as it has been thrown about, primarily just as a strategic issue. I think that marriage, in the minds of a lot of voters, has a religious connotation. I know that’s true in the African-American community, for example. And if you asked people, ‘should gay and lesbian people have the same rights to transfer property, and visit hospitals, and et cetera,’ they would say, ‘absolutely.’ And then if you talk about, ‘should they get married?’, then suddenly…”

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JamesMichael

6:54 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

2006: in The Audacity of Hope"
“I was reminded that it is my obligation not only as an elected official in a pluralistic society, but also as a Christian, to remain open to the possibility that my unwillingness to support gay marriage is misguided,” while a U.S. Senator, writing in his memoir in 2006, “The Audacity of Hope.”

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JamesMichael

6:56 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

August 9, 2007 Presidential Debate:
“The government has to treat all citizens equally. I am a strong supporter not of a weak version of civil unions, but of a strong version, in which the rights that are conferred at the federal level to persons who are part of the same-sex union are compatible. When it comes to federal rights, the over 1,100 rights that right now are not being given to same-sex couples, I think that’s unacceptable.” -

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JamesMichael

7:03 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

May 9th, 2012.
Yes, Annie. May 9th, 2012.
Oh my.

The track record, from 1998 through 2012 sure looks like a nuanced and evolving mind at work. Don't you agree?

Please, Annie.
Don't disappoint us, now.
Your friend, docker

Ann Wood

7:07 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Oh and Docker, nuanced is a two syllable word. Do go on about how dumb Jimmie is and how brilliant you are. Laughs a million.

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JamesMichael

10:20 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Oh Annie.
Such a silly comment.
Surely you can do better.

Your friend, docker

Ellie

9:29 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

This conversation has been very entertaining to say the least! Here's the big-picture, bottom line. Fundamentalist Christian owner of CFA says he's against same-sex marriage. No surprise there and he's entitled to his opinion, although many may disagree with it. That's an advantage of uncensored, free speech...you can ferret out the opinions you don't agree with and make your own choices accordingly. If people want to boycott CFA, then boycott.

In the meantime, the world is becoming more progressive. Who would have imagined even twenty years ago that same-sex marriage would be legal in any state or country at all? Talking to young people today, you'll see that they are comfortable with the idea of same-sex marriage and gay rights. These young people realize that granting rights to homosexuals doesn't impact their own rights in any way. It's really no big deal.

Sure, there is still a long way to go until homosexuals are completely integrated into our society, but we're further along than we thought could be possible just a few years ago. Society is progressing. Just the fact that we are having this type of debate shows that gay rights are making inroads: if not, Cathy and the others who oppose same-sex marriage wouldn't feel so threatened. I expect more of this type of resistance from conservatives as gays gain more rights, but in the end, progress will prevail even though it may take years.

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Dbc

11:41 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

I left this blog for awhile because it was going downhill...thank you Ellie, so being so articulate. The next generation is going off to college...they do not see race, orientation, religion in the way we grew up (thank heavens)! You are correct...society is progressing; they are our hope for the future!

Dbc

11:55 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Hello, just wondering, does this Patch have a moderator? Most Patch's do and review posts that are flaged inappropriate, review again, and delete posts that are offensive and not on topic. I haven't seen any presence...who is doing their job? Do believe in freedom of speech but not some of the things I have seen on here!

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Ann Wood

11:59 pm on Sunday, July 29, 2012

Yes Ellie I too look forward to the day when homosexuals can enter a cfa without fear of being turned away at the counter. When they too can hold a job and maybe even oh golly such a fond dream be represented in the arts and media. Ah to be progressive. Always seeing the glass half full.

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Dbc

1:19 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Glad you see it that way, now, Ann!

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Ellie

6:58 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Thank you, Ann! Yes, I see the glass as more than half full....optimism has been linked with longevity, so I'm couningt on optimism to help me live a long and full life. My neighborhood NOW is a microcosm of how the world COULD BE. We have straight married couples, straight nonmarried couples, married gay couples, nonmarried gay couples, families with children, all ages and races....it's wonderful when we all come together at various times in the year to celebrate the diversity of our wonderful neighborhood and it's especially good to see children being raised to appreciate the diversity of families.

I am also fortunate to have been raised by parents who valued free thinking, reason, common sense, logic, experience and practicality over any religious teachings. We were taught not to discriminate against anyone based on innate traits that couldn't be changed and that included sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is not a rational basis to deny rights to individuals, especially when granting those rights do no harm to anyone else. Discrimination based on sexual orientation is just another form of sexism: it's discrimination based on someone's sex.

I can't imagine what it would be like to homophobic or to be gripped by the fear that homosexuals be granted the same rights at heterosexuals. To me, that is an irrational fear. I feel sorry for people who can't get over that fear.

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Howard Johnson

11:41 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Ellie, I'm afraid you have described the neighborhood of Ann's nightmares. The goal for many is found by combining Jimmie's 'smoking hot wife' ideal with Ann's First Grade Bible Study Cartoon Text/ coloring Book ideal of life. Think the town of Stepford Wives but the only stations on the TV are the 700 Club and FOX News.

Ann Wood

10:43 am on Monday, July 30, 2012

Docker, I particularly enjoy you quoting from Obama's work of fiction/memoir as evidence of his intellectual depth and evolution. Keep on spinning.

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JamesMichael

2:12 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Oh, Annie.
What a disappointment you are.
My hopes that you might have been a worthy adversary are dashed.
There's really no more to say.
This matter is now closed.

Your friend, docker

Ms.

4:19 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

I can only assume, and by that I mean hope, that Mr. Cathy wasn't intimately familiar with all the groups they gave to. A little research would have shown that some were extremely offensive. When we start talking publicly about arresting people, and suggesting very sexual intimate things about friends and neighbors that we've never met merely because they are gay, that goes over a line, and is not in the spirit of Christ.

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Dbc

4:21 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

I, too, wish that was true; however, they know exactly what they are doing. I do feel bad for franchisees, who for the most part, couldn't agree LESS with their politics...let fran's open so peeps can eat more chix on Sunday!

jimmie

4:35 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Don't worry Ann. They first treated Noah like this for following Gods plan (and see what happened) and then treated Christ like this (and see what happened). Its just part of the plan. When God has had enough of the truly wicked, you'll know it. In the meantime, vote the gays out of office and don't patronize their businesses and patronize businesses like CFA and Hobby Lobby that aren't ashamed or refused to be bullied by the whoremongers.. I haven't purchased anything from amazon since before the millenium and will drop a fortune at CFA on wednesday. Keep the faith. Its all spelled out in the book called the Bible they refuse to accept. Cheers all and GO CFA!!!!

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Joe

4:49 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Better he should have said 'pimps?'

stan wardsworth

5:02 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

@Mark Baker - Does anybody even believe in the Word of God anymore? Mark, I'm not sure what your interest is in this forum - I read a few posts, but yours particularly I wanted to address. In 1 Cor 2:14 the Word of God explains your questions concerning the "context" of the passages you mentioned, and your concerns. We are unable to understand God's Word with the right perspective until we have God's Spirit - that's what 1 Cor 2:14 is talking about.

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stan wardsworth

5:04 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

@ mark baker How do I know this Scripture is true? Because for many yrs in my life I had some of the same questions as you; I read excerpts of the bible and came to conclusions that took the essence of the meaning our of context, making it say what I "thought" it was saying rather than understanding what God was saying through His Word in a way that caused me to know Him as my spiritual Father. I'm not sure what your sexual orientation is, in fact I don't care; I just would like you to come to understand God's Word in the correct manner before you interpret what a verse says inaccurately because you don't have enough information - about God or the bible - to understand God - through His Word - accurately. Here is a website where you can ask a question and get great answers to questions you may have. Also, my name is Stan Wardsworth. My email is ezra.foundation@gmail.com. If you, or "anyone" you know has any more questions, I'd be glad to help you along. I will not be judgmental, my only motive is to give you - or anyone - more information so you can have another frame of reference before you assume things about God and people who worship Him that you may find you were misinformed about, and maybe - maybe not - reconsider your position. Sorry, Here's the site: http://gotquestions.org/

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Oliver

5:24 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

What the heck's going on up here. I come back after a few days and discover that The Patch has turned into a playground for Christian bible study. Please, Christians. In the Name of God, please just go away.

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jimmie

7:17 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Just trying to preserve ethos in the world of ones like Oliver Quicksand...and anyone can bear false witness ..after all, we should all look for the wolves in sheeps clothing. Satan comes in many forms...some of them jim jones, some named oh, lets say Oliver quicksand.

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jimmie

7:21 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

@Oquick...once again proven..those who demand tolerance are the most intolerant. You speak of a divine, all powerful god, and all the asps hissssssss...very predictable oliver..and larry..and docker

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Ellie

8:31 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

Wow, Jimmie, I thought Christians were supposed to set a good example of how to treat people. Some of your comments and jabs at people are pretty bad. Is this how you represent your religion? You're definitely not winning over anyone.

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jimmie

9:16 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

I call a spade a spade Ellie. You apparently don't know the volume of personal email I get supporting my positions. I am well prepared to enter your den of snakes called homosexuality. You try to make me concede my values so as to get along with you, not going to happen. So, stop your hissing. Rome didn't fall in a day, neither will Dunwoody. But your bullying will be stepped up to by people and beings stronger than you can imagine to preserve the values we still have. I like my chances. Cheers!

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jimmie

10:45 pm on Monday, July 30, 2012

At least you admit your intent. As any good country does, invaders are repelled until decimated. Night Larry. Say hello to moe and curly.

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Ann Wood

12:38 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Docker, love your white flag.

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jimmie

7:16 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Joe, I think Christianity is well represented here. Standing in the face of bigoted, bullying hate filled gays is no easy task. All we have done is to continually pull the intolerance out of you and show the world your evil agenda. I say kudos to traditionalists!

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Jimmie is a fool

7:56 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

I think someone is in the closet

Michael Caldwell

12:49 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

If you disagree with my personal theology or politics, you must be guilty of discrimination and hate speech! I guess that's justification for the political jihad being waged against Mr Cathy and his company. If you guys don't think he has a right to his theological and political views, stay out of his stores. It'll just make the lines shorter for the rest of us.

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jimmie

5:57 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

here here brother i boycott the gays at every opportunity..except in prayer

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Dbc

12:10 am on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Yes,I disagree with your personal theology and politics...guilty (I must, according to your definition). Hate speech...I believe that belongs to you! You and Jimmie can have a great time tomorrow standing in line,

Ann Wood

5:36 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Oliver, some could read your comment as anti-christian bigotry. Where do you work- boycott in route.

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jimmie

5:55 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Ann, i'm not sure oliver is qualified to work. don't waste your time on lost causes. give folks like him over to god and work on the ones we can still save. bring on the biscuits baby!!!! cfa appreciation day tomoorow!!!! and every day!!

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Dbc

11:35 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012

Hello Patch...What the hell has happened...every Patch has a moderator..what has happened to this one? Totally has gone off-topic. Get control!!

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bulldogger

3:07 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012

Just got through eating at Chic-Fil-A......man I'm full. It was delicious. As a bonus, I received a "My Chic-Fil-A Loves Me" sticker.....it's a keeper. Can't wait till Friday, August 3, 2012......

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Dbc

2:53 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Were you in that big line with Jimmy, spending his $500 +? You stand in line and get your sticker...times are achanging and in a couple of years you will be irrelevant!

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jimmie

6:33 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

my moneys on chicken and the family dbc. actually, tab yesterday came out to be $160...over 5 visits. wanted to let everyone in on the action!!! you are a hateful bully dbc, and i will leave your disposition in Gods hands.

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jimmie

6:35 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

holy cow..6300 patrons at mount vernon cfa yesterday!!!! hope all the profits go to combat the gay agenda!!!!!!

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Jonathan Belcher

8:20 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012

Ralph I think you have a winner here, 334 comments. That's got to be a record.

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Fourth ward

8:20 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

If marriage is sacred make divorce illegal. Its like some same sex couple together for 17 yrs cant get married but britney and kimk can be married for less than week and thats fine. How screwed are we as a country?

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jimmie

9:58 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Its called societal values Fourth Ward. What we were founded as a nation on. Whats to stop liberals from making same family member marriage legal or man/animal or woman/animal or brother/brother, etc..you get the idea. We have to stand for something for we will fall victim to everything. Went to chick fil a this morning and ordered 3 100 nugget trays for lunch. Yummie! Guess what, the drive thru was still backed up at 9:30 am!

Tammy

10:01 am on Friday, August 3, 2012

Whats to stop liberals from letting black people and white people get married...oh, wait.

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jimmie

4:51 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Have been to the chick-fil-a 14 times this week!!! And still can't thank them enough for standing their ground against a TRUE American hate Group..the LGBT's!!!!

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jimmie

5:39 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

oHH, SNAP..I believe Jimmie is a fool is a stalker..sorry dude, very hetero...and very much intending to wreck your gay agenda..Cheers!

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snarg borlax

6:19 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

Chik-fil-a chicken comes from Wayne Farms LLC, a factory farming subsidiary of ContiGroup. Because it’s a large factory farming operation Wayne Farms is profit driven with an intense focus on shareholder returns. Wayne Farms is also a verti...
cally integrated agribusiness, which means that the company (with its obligation to its shareholders and not to the welfare of the animals in its care) has control of the the livestock not from the farm to the table, but from the gene to the fast food restaurant. When agribusinesses are as large and as powerful as Wayne Farms and ContiGroup, few checks and balances exist to protect the livestock from conditions inherent to factory farming. Brace yourselves. This is about to get gross.

http://pluckychicken.net/2012/07/28/chicken-jesus-haz-a-disappoint/

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

6:32 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

I ate Chick-fil-A last week. I couldn't resist.

It amuses me how Dan Cathy keeps finding ways to alienate new customers. Perhaps he's trying to warn us about the imminent Wrath, but he's probably just brown-nosing, in case God is a vegan.

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

6:33 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

If the president of a privately-held, family-run corporation makes a public comment, it's a bit naive to suggest that they are solely his views. It is dishonest to pretend that this insignificant quote is the only reason for the boycott; I don't even care what you think of the organizations CFA/WinShape supports.

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

6:34 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

I'm not even sure what to call the assertion that boycotting a company is a violation of its civil rights (oh right, corporations are people, duh)! CFA has donated money to people who aren't above boycotting whatever they disagree with. Should the Montgomery Boycott have stopped because "bus drivers have families too, y'know?"

If you disagree with Dan Cathy, do what you gotta do. If you agree with Dan Cathy, do what you gotta do. If you're opposed to the radikul homersectional ajenduh, have a Coke and a smile, and shut the front door.

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

6:35 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012

As for lgbt rights, I lean toward the opinion that rarely gets any media attention: The mainstream gay lobby has focused too many resources on marriage and assimilation, while issues of discrimination still affect those who are not Caucasian, male, middle-class, or cisgender. There's a young, gay person in your town, who has a parent like Jimmie inducing mental anguish, physical pain, or homelessness. I'd say that's more important than sammitches.

{Back to your regularly scheduled porridge...}

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George Wilson

12:43 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012

In the debate raging over Chick-fil-A's position on gay rights, some defenders of the Georgia-based fast-food chain have claimed that despite Chief Operating Officer Dan Cathy's statements against same-sex marriage and the company's generous funding of anti-gay groups, the outspokenly Christian corporation doesn't discriminate against workers.

But in fact, the company has been sued at least a dozen times for employment discrimination, according to Forbes magazine.

One of the cases involved Aziz Latif, a former Chick-fil-A restaurant manager in Houston, who sued the company in 2002 because he was fired a day after refusing to participate in a group prayer to Jesus Christ at a company training program. Latif is a Muslim. The suit was settled, but the terms were not disclosed, Forbes reported.

More recently, a former employee of a Chick-fil-A restaurant in Georgia sued the company for wrongful termination, alleging she and other women employees were victims of gender discrimination.

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jimmie

2:58 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

CFA.in only 6 days per week is the highest grossing and best ebitda per unit of ANY fast food franchise...I think people adore chick fila !!!! I think people love the owners. I think people love the employee spirit. I think young kids love the scholarships. I think God smiles on his childrens efforts to stand behind biblical principles. I think those that can't see that are blinded by Satans fear of Gods almighty wrath. We know who wins in the end..again! Cheers! Be getting another 20 CFA buscuits for the office breakfat tomorrow!

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Fourth ward

8:01 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Mark , I am a Christian please show me where Jesus said any about gays? I'll wait. To me the most important part of being a christian is John 13:34-35. The rest is all bullshit if we all followed that the world would truly be a better place but you cant control people with that.
I quote the film Annie Hall : "But the worst are the fundamentalist preachers. Third grade con men telling the poor suckers that watch them that they speak with Jesus, and to please send in money. Money, money, money! If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up. "

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jimmie

9:33 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

My, my read the gay bulliness. So you know, I am a fit miliionaire several times over who owe all my success to my lord and savior Jesus Christ. I don't agree with preachers preaching wanting money but I do agree with those who preach that the wages of sin is eternal damnation. For those who believe that God and Jesus (who are one in the holy trinity) do not punish sin, I encourage you to read the Bible and note the impact of the worlds sin in Noahs day, in Lot's day, in Samson's day and, wow, even in the time of Christs birth where the wicked destroyed every male they could find in an attempt to destroy Christs known impact yet to come. Christ has never been accepted among the wicked yet continues to rise up and smite them. You can use your verbal salvos on judgement day. Until then, have fun bullying and showing the world what demonic hissing sounds like. Cheers. God Bless America and God Bless Chick-fil-A!!! See you tomorrow MOunt Vernon CFA!!

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

10:44 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Mt. Vernon CFA? ಠ_ಠ You mean Chick-fil-A at Perimeter Pointe? Ugh.
Thanks, Jimmie. I think I can finally resist temptation now. Besides, I'm starting a diet so I'll look good in my speedo for Black Gay Pride.

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Dbc

12:57 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

oh now Jimmie has reinvented himself as a bully fit millionaire...too funny!

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Timmy Karmasyde, Inc.

1:05 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

@Roger I'm sure they'd welcome you... if they had a parade. The Atlanta event is akin to a hotel convention. But there's plenty of nightlife around town. Bring your Harley for late night tailgating!

jimmie

10:54 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

And in hell they lifted up their eyes..dont let it be you...

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jimmie

10:55 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

what is it they say..Pride goeth before a GREAT fall....look out below timothy

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jimmie

11:19 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

Timmie and the other jimmie..I think what the population showed the perverse groups and the bullys and the haters dominated by the gays is that your dislike can't even touch the exterior wall of the base of support for CFA. You managed maybe 500 people worldwide to come out and waive your little lying propaganda signs and their profits doubled last week...and I hope it all goes to the protection of the family as almighty god intended it. And Timmie, you can come out to the PP CFA anytime tomorrow morning between 8-8:15 and waive at the big white Lexus with Auburn plates as I go by and buy 20 more love giving breakfast biscuits!!

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Avon Dale

11:33 pm on Sunday, August 5, 2012

@jimmie - Speaking of "the fall", you seem pretty "proud" about CFA's great future; read the article below before you celebrate. Remember Susan G. Komen Foundation? How do you suppose they are doing now?
Sure, CFA had a great turnout on appreciation day but since conservatives tend to spend money less frequently, this trend won't last because most of the "liberal" spenders are mostly tolerant of alternative sexual orientations and will remember this insult for years to come. ;-)
So it goes with most of these things until the greed parading itself as "christian values" is exposed for what it is. Have fun grasping to hold on to your millions of worthless federal reserve notes when you are passing through the eye of the needle. hehe
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/6-brands-playing-footsie-conservatives-and-paying-price

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Dbc

1:09 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

No one takes Jimmie seriously so now he has reinvented himself as a millionaire standing in line for genetically modified chikin. You go, Jims! You give southerners a bad name, for sure!

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Dbc

1:13 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

and yes, Jimmie, go ahead and call me a bully again (like you do to everyone you disagree with). Your bullying Does Not Bother Me At All! Idiots are idiots! Go ahead and prove that again!

Dbc

1:47 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

Current metal count US...28 Gold, 14 Silver, 18 Bronze..! More important things are going on!

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jimmie

9:23 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

John 3:16..For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth on him shall not perish but have everlasting life. God doesn't discriminate, seek him while you still have opportunity. 20 biscuits this morning..already consumed by the office. Go CFA!! Incredible peach shakes for all on Thursday. Profits to family friendly organizations!!

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JamesMichael

11:04 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

I humbly launched this Christo-fil-Amen fest on 8/24. I did so with the incontrovertible, and quite innocent, observation that Lizards tend to hiss, slither, and snap. I suggested that to slip one's hand under a suspect rock, one beneath which such lizards might lurk, would surely be foolish.

This observation is indisputable. It is entirely consistent with everything that Fair Observation tells us about Lizards. Indeed, Scripture states quite clearly that "to bed with Lizards is to condemn one's soul to the agonies of stinky brimstone and unlubed pitchfork". (ref: Jobabbaloo: Chapter IV, verse 27). If you don't believe me you can look it up. Yet some ChristoGroupies found within the original observation an unflattering reflection upon themselves, took umbrage with the Plain Truth of it.

I don't understand.
I just don't understand why, unless the original observation prompted an epiphany of soul-searching by which their hissings, slitherings, and snappings were cast in vivid relief.

I sincerely regret this misunderstanding.
I meant only to caution a decent respect for reptiles.
Surely, no one of fair mind would find fault with this gentle admonition to prudence lest the Fate of Euridice be visited upon the innocent. Prudence, you know, is one of the Four Cardinal Virtues.

Whatever the case, I will pray for you.
You, too, can be saved if only you will shun the fake, the pretender, the preposterous, the preacherman, and open your heart to The Risen Word.

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Anna Varela

11:28 am on Monday, August 6, 2012

Folks,

There has been a lot of great debate on this issue. But let's all remember to keep things civil. People have a wide range of opinions on the same-sex marriage issue and Chick-fil-A, but there's no reason for people to attack each other on a personal level.

Anna Varela
Regional Editor

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JamesMichael

12:02 pm on Monday, August 6, 2012

I whole-heartedly agree, Anna. Thank you for urging civility. Without it there can be no debate; only, vitriol. I, for one, have always lived by that creed. I pray that others do, as well.

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Dbc

12:17 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Thanks, Anna...Two of my previous posts have wondered why Patch has not rung in on this feed (after 370+ comments)...I guess every Patch is run differently.

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Dbc

12:26 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Reference my post re: Patch on 7/ 29 + 31. Where have you been?

Anna Varela

8:57 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Folks,
It appears that this debate has run its course, so I'm shutting down this comment thread. I'd like to thank the majority of folks who offered up thoughtful comments even when they found themselves disagreeing with other readers.

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