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(Updated): Boyfriend Charged in Fatal Shooting of Swallow Circle-Baywood Teen

17-year-old girl found in woods.

 

by Patch Staff

Atlanta police have arrested the boyfriend of a teenage girl who was found wounded in the Lakewood area late Friday and who later died, police spokesman Officer John Chafee said Saturday.

Edward Johnson, 18, was charged with murder, according to an e-mail statement from Chafee.

Police found the girl with a gunshot wound to her side around 9:15 p.m. in the 2000 block of Rhinehill Road, Chafee said.

The girl, identified as 17 years old in a Fox 5 Atlanta report on the shooting, was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital, where she later died.

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tojo

8:22 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Black males ages 14 to 35, commit over 70% of violent crime in america, while comprising less than 4% of the population, and contributing less than 1/10 of 1% to the gross national product. It's, "Time for a change" all right.

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Ralph McGraw

8:58 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

The only thing that I see them doing besides what was mentioned, is to impregnate so many women to produce babies with no thought of supporting those children. Those children grow up and start the cycle over again. You THINK that we need some changes?

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Poot

9:30 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

87% or statistics quoted in 93% of articles are made up on the spot, but believed by 68% of the people reading them, especially when no source is cited.

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Paula Larson

11:18 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

This for Ralph McGraw. Why dump all the blame on the male population? I know of several female that have 4, 5 & 6 kids, all with different fathers. They could have said "no" but more kids just make for bigger checks and more government help.

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Jody Chaoman

12:09 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Obama Debt: $4.6 Trillion in 2.5 years. Bush Debt: $4.5 Trillion in 8 years, and unemploymet has continued to rise on the colored boys watch

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Peter Bob Clampett

12:18 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

100 percent of all crime is done by criminals..100 percent of all dumb racist comments are made by racist idiots. My late Uncle "Bull" O' Full Of It, a former shurf in the deep south, would be so proud of you all.

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Jody Chaoman

12:37 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

All that species knows is, RAPE, ROBBERY, MURDER, INBREEDING, DRUGS AND WELFARE. FACT !

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Mark Burkholder

12:47 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

And the so called black leaders like Sharpton and Jackson are no where to be found when it comes to stating the "time for a change" initiative. Why cant they focus on the issues tojo forementioned instead of their way off liberal left point of views.

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Rey Castillo

1:21 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Obviously, if these are the statistics and they are correct, It behoves us to make a policy change to these individuals. It is only 4% of the population, their contribution is almost non-existant; yet, they commit 70% of violent crime. Immediate identification of this group is necessary; especially repeat offenders. Government intervention in this case would be most equitible. Either move these individuals, especially repeats, to provide goventment production, something that gives back to society and train them into something they can use for when they rejoin the workforce. Naturally, they will end after they reach peak age 35 upon completion; else, set up a friendly 3rd world nation to accept prisions and care for them. Cheaper for us and helps that thirld world country.

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john bruno

1:25 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

You are correct. They have professional sports skills which don't require a whole lot of thinking, either, i.e., like the National Felons League and the National Blackbasketball Association.

If they had to find a real job, they couldn't do it. No job skills.

This ANIMAL needs to be killed. He shot his "girlfriend" and left her for dead. Hope they have the death penalty (that they use) in Georgia.

tojo

9:05 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

It's time to change this culture of violence, ignorance, immorallity, and hatred of everything white. Just google Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom to see just what these "People" are "Really" capable of.

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SandyFishGirl

10:11 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

One word for those who killed Channon & Christopher - animals.

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Jungle Jim

10:17 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Thank you and did this crime make the NATIONAL NEWS hell no, those dogs need to be put down for the heinous crime committed against these two people.

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Tom

10:26 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Try the Witchita Massacre.

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SandyFishGirl

10:34 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I looked on Google maps to see if indeed that house had been razed. I read there was supposed to be a memorial there, so I wanted to see if there was a sign or a marker posted on the street - like you see on the side of the road for accident victims. The house has been razed, but you can't see any memorial sign as Google maps has the street view blocked.

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Jody Chaoman

11:39 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Due to their constant inbreeding, the sub-human negroid species stopped evolving 10's of thousands of years ago.

vonnie

9:05 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

What can we do to help our young men? I work in the prison system. I would venture to say that 65% of the young men I come across between the ages of 18-25 do not have a high school diploma. This number is probably higher. One can never justify taking another person’s life or dealing drug as a means for a life style to support a family. Each act is selfish. Unfortunately for some, the prison doors are revolving. There are ex inmates feel that society has nothing to offer them because of their past crimes. Should the prison educate the inmate between the ages of 18-30? Should they be taught a trade that would prepare them for work once they leave?

Do re-entry programs help? What do we about the young man who raised himself because his parents were on drugs? Street survival is what they know. Moreover, it is all about survival for them. Have we failed these young men Black and White if they are apart of our families? Have we dropped the ball?

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nascarpainter

9:45 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

"FAILED THEM"? I think not, I was rasied tough like most americans, I could have chose to go down that road. Here's the deal, drug test every person that gets any assistance from goverment, if you fail the test, you can't reapply for 90 days, next time it's 1 year. We spend billions on these ungreatful a..holes, and they only expect more. If you are on assistance and just keep having babies, after 2 you will be nuttered. What makes you think we are going to pay for your problems & mistakes.
I am sick of this, and I am sick of the goverment

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ronn

10:31 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

to answer your question with a question- why is this problem most systematic in black culture?
Vietnamese come to America and move forward, same with Hispanics and pretty much every culture I can think of. Only in black culture is there such a high ratio of
extreme violence for a minority of people and so few people willing to "learn" and move forward. I don't have the answer, but the truth is there is a major problem in the black culture and blacks in general, can only come up with retaliation instead of accepting that there is in fact a major problem and disconnect from society.

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CSR

11:37 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Although I sympathize with your comment I could not accept that "we failed them". Each if us is responsible for his/her choices in life. I mentioned this before and I know many, even perhaps the majority will not like it, but take God out of our lives and we are nothing but evil. I am involved in a Christian Prision Ministry... Of all inmates who are released from Prision 80% go back within the first 30 days. Of those who get involved in Bible Studies, 20% go back within the first 30 days. It is a step in the right direction.

Bemused

9:10 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Perhaps their parents dropped the ball. Perhaps they threw the ball away. I worked with criminals, heavy end - for years, some are open to rehabilitation and some are not. Of the latter you cannot do for them what they will not do for themselves.

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Lorraine

9:39 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

This case seems to be one where passion and intense anger clashed. Crimes of passion are unique because most are not premeditated. At the same time, if the young man had not had access to a gun...but that's another debate. Our young people are not equipped to deal with conflict. In high school the solution is still to kick the butt of whomever has offended you or looked at you wrong. There was a time when parents taught their children right from wrong. The problem is too many parents are absent themselves and need to be taught. Too many young people have been left to raise themselves the best way they know how, and we know that's not working.

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SandyFishGirl

10:14 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

@Lorraine - IMO when it comes to murder - it is just that. "Crimes of passion" seems like an excuse for the defense. The victim is dead. A murder was committed - there is no excuse.

joeypad@aol.com

9:12 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

in response to ralph m..as long as the stupid federal and local idiots keep paying them to have all these little bas---s..they will never stop

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Lorraine

9:45 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

joyepad@aol.com, I guess you don't know the out-of-birth and abortion rate among unwed and teen whites, do you? I didn't think so. Wow, based on the hateful, racist comments here it appears that the good 'ole white folks aren't really the serial-killing, terrorist bombing, child-molesting in the trailer-park, gun-toting-meth-cooking, nasty tobacco-chewing species that have been documented and profiled by the FBI for decades now. See what happens when you stereotype? No race has a monopoly on crime or sin.

Seaside

9:23 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Some of these comments are so ignorant...I know the people that are using the race card are the WHITE dumb a@#!. Here's one for the white ppl STOP RAPING YOUR KIDS and killing them, STOP RAPING innocent women jogging, STOP raping your mothers, sisters, neighbors, wives, STOP MOLESTING YOUR CHILDREN.YOU PEOPLE CAN MAKE ALL THE RACIAL COMMENTS YOU WONT, BUT ATLEAST NONE OF THE BLACK KIDS ARE IN PRISON FOR MURDERING THEIR CHILDREN, OR KILLING INNOCENT KIDS..WHITE PEOPLE HANG YOURSELF WITH THOSE SAME ROPES YA'LL USE TO TIE KIDS UP WITH.

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kay

9:35 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

People of all races commit the same kind of crimes! I live in Florida and yes we have black men in prison for killing their kids. One black man threw his 3 month old son out of his car as he drove on the freeway! He was mad at the mother. I apologize for all the racial comments, some people are just ignorant!

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Poot

9:35 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Yeah, sure none of them are.

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June Keith

9:46 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

some of these remarks are way out of control.. to Mr. Seaside there are many instances of both black and white raping killing there mothers sisters children... we have both issues in Houston and around the US all the time... read the internet before you make a statement like that... our judicial system does nothing to rehabilitate... I know this because I have 3 sons that went to prison for really dumb stuff... when people are released into what is called the free world to the inmates, no one wants to hire them due to there back grounds... also if the really bad folks were left in prison rapist murders child molesters stuff like that, alot of this would slow down... it seems as if this stuff has become a part of life that people are expected to accept... Bashing each others race isn't the answer that's for sure and won't solve anything... and to some who think its the parents fault, I am still a hard working mother of 3 sons... I raised them the correct way but there comes a point when you make your own decisions in life, and as a parent, when things don't work out and you kids end up caught up in the system you question everything you have said or done as a parent... I'm here to say, that all 3 of my sons have told me it wasn't me... They made there own choices... not sure if any of this helps...

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SandyFishGirl

10:16 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

@Kay - I remember that story. How sick is that animal!!

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Jungle Jim

10:22 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Really, how about the woman that drove her kids to their death off the pier? You know using capital letters in a comment is a sign of anger, calm down, get something to drink, chill out, or you are gonna need to use your share of OBAMACARE.

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Patti Burt

10:43 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I know of several cases where it is a black man or woman who has killed their kids. That happens with all races

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tiffanie

12:48 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

how can you speak of the next person being ignorant and racist but to only through ignorance & racism out into this thread. sounds like someone is hypocritical and very contradicting.

but i do have a question for you. what do you think stay bullets hit when there is a drive by? just a few weeks ago in oakland california there was a father walking to the store while holding his 1 year old son whom was struck by a stray bullet during a drive by which happen to be a black male who pulled that trigger,so sir or ma'am which ever u are please practice what you preach,because that right there is what u were saying u dont hear of.ever see the movie precious? happens in real life as well,crime doesnt see color its in every race,culture,nation across the world and what ever planet has life.

Lorraine

9:33 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Wow, based on the hateful, racist comments here it appears that the good 'ole white folks aren't really the serial-killing, terrorist bombing, child-molesting in the trailer-park, gun-toting-meth-cooking, nasty tobacco-chewing species that have been documented and profiled by the FBI for decades now. See what happens when you stereotype?

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ronn

10:37 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Lorraine, lets look at numbers- of course every race has killers and violent crime.
Problem is the ratio is insane in the black community. My opinion is that lack of education is the greatest culprit.
How do we solve that problem?- it starts at home and unfortunately, not many black families have a "complete" home. There are many Mom's and Grandmom's raising the kids in black families, void of men. Fact.

Erica

9:42 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

There are so many ignorant and racist comments on here. Geesh, I guess no one watches the news. Based on the responses only people of color commit crimes and every one else are pure as the driven snow. Grow up!

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joeypad@aol.com

10:21 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

no one said that aho..check the fbi stats and check the paper evryday and keep arunnig tally of crime and who commits them.and get with the real world after that

kenneth murphy

9:51 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

A good boy like this doesn't do bad things the PO_PO got the wrong boy.

robert stone

9:58 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

What could a girl of 17 have done to enrage a guy so that he would snuff out the life of this thinking, breathing human being?

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SandyFishGirl

10:21 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

What could SHE have done? Seriously! Edward Johnson is an animal pure & simple. Blame the victim? SURE! Don't you think if women could get a man to do something by "pushing his buttons" she would push the one that says, "Wash the dishes" - NOT the one that says, "Shoot me" ????

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CSR

11:27 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

The same as Rihanna to enrage her then boyfriend to beat her to a pulp.

garnett roby

10:04 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Dear tojo,
According to the Dept of Justice between 1980 thru 2008 violent cdime that was commited, only 13% were commited by Black males age group was 14-35. Get your facts correct before you state them. By the way over 80& was white male check there web site like I did.

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ronn

10:44 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Only 13%???
Yes 13% of a group that encompasses only 14% of the population.
Do the math-highest crime rate is blacks.

J C

10:06 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I think Patch should ban AOL from carrying their articles.
That is where most of the low lifes are hanging out.

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Péralte Paul

10:21 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I've taken down some comments. I'm all for debate and the exchange of open dialogue even if the viewpoints are extreme. But some comments crossed the line so I've deleted them. The point of open commenting on stories is to allow people to express their views, give their perspectives and offer ideas. It can be done without resorting to name calling and other vulgarities.

mama2fourgirls

10:41 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Holy cow. My head is spinning. Not only are people going WAAAAAAAYYYY off the issue of this article and merely using it as a soundboard to lash out due to their own racism. etc....someone got all mad about blaming the victim?!?! Good Lord, first of all to the person (I dont have time to bother with who's who on this joke of a debate) who thought a comment was blaming the victim: Simmer down, re-read the comment & realize this person was not blaming the victim. I can't believe some of the things I'm reading on here. Doesn't any one care about the state of man kind right now? Don't people see that the world is going to hell in a hand bag & you people (BLACK AND WHITE!!!!!) are so caught up in what color person does what crime, that you are completely & blissfully ignorant of the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR SOMEONE IS WHETHER VICTIM OR PERPETRATOR!!!!! What the hell is wrong with you people & I mean ALL of you people on here. I couldn't care less about what color someone is when something horrible is done to them. It doesn't matter. I'm sorry to sound so dramatic & I'm sure that there will be responses to me that will poke fun at sounding soft but I sit back & look all the time at the world my daughters will be entering into as they become adults and it scares me half to death. I raise them right & they are beautiful but the world is very ugly & I pray everyday that the human race will start to CARE about & help each other. Somehow. This is getting out of control.

Earl Byrd

10:47 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

there are good and bad in all races of people. When the haters reallize this they will stop racizim on both sides... Blacks hating white and whites hating blacks is WRONG. Hate the person not the color of ones skin.Hate theperson that commited the crime or wrong doing. If you group a people based on the color on ones skin you may give up the chance to have a true friend for life. I SAY STOP HATING PEOPLE FOR THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.....

Sharon Hughes

10:50 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Yeah, well, seems like the most deranged, sick, twisted and murderous serial killers are white boys. You can stereotype all you want but the fact remains....white guys are top on the list for the sickest and most vile behavior.

And I'm a white woman. I believe there are generations of black, white, mexican and others that live (exist) in the underbelly of our culture. Not because they chose that life - our system fails them.

It's not my fault their lives are so tragic and it's not yours - it's the system we have in this country.

I see the crimes, the vulgar gangs, the hopeless and the angry in every race that is forced to live in that enviornment - help needs to be colorblind.

i'm not suggesting a free ride for anyone but we need to offer educational and life skills to anyone that needs and wants to change the direction of their lives.

We need to intervene in early childhood - our schools should be the first to recognize children showing the results of poor parenting, abuse and hopeless family situations. The longer we turn our heads and try to ignore the problems - the worse it gets. Broken children become broken adults and by that time it's almost always too late to change the direction of violent behavior. just my opinion

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joeypad@aol.com

11:06 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

if you really believe your stupid comments then you are one really stupid white woman..check the stats aho blacks make up less of the population but numerically commit more of the violent crimes..get off you soapbox

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Angel

11:44 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I don't think the argument here is whether or not white men and women commit crimes. I think the argument is that within the black communities there is more crime committed on a daily basis. You may be correct about 80% of crime is committed by white males (altho I think that is a bit in the high end of percentages) however compared to the white male population, that is a rather low number. It isn't about how many are criminals, but more how many are criminals versus how many are not. With that as your basis, black on black crime and crimes committed by black men specifically is a higher percentage.
However you are right about the education and life skills being a great start. Starting in early childhood. If you read my other post further down, you will see that I mentioned the military and how there is a huge difference in black men and women (as well as white and other races but we are focusing on the black community for this discussion) who enter the military and learn skills, get educations, work for their paychecks and are not just expected but made to care for their children and families.

angie

11:03 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Why do people even feel that they need to get into the details regarding a persons skin color?One thing is certain there are plenty of childish, inmature and ignorant people that focus on meaningless details, they are truely unconscious. there are some very sick, and sad and idiotic people in society. There is only one race, the human race and plenty of mentally ill, evil people of every shape and size that do the crime. That is a fact!!

garnett roby

11:07 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

ronn,
it is amazing how you disregarded the other mention of over 80% of volient crime was commited by white males, so how do you get that blacks are responsible for the majority of volient crime your math is distrubing.

garnett roby

11:07 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

ronn,
it is amazing how you disregarded the other mention of over 80% of volient crime was commited by white males, so how do you get that blacks are responsible for the majority of volient crime your math is distrubing.

Deborah Hermann

11:17 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

yikes, some people take the biblical phrase "be fruitful and multiply" way too literally. We as a society have let morals take a back seat so to speak. Most teenagers are sexually active, too many girls are becoming mothers, boys well they choose not to step up to the plate when it comes to their responsibilities. They will remain boys forever....men nurture, support, and raise their children, boys brag about how many children they produce, period.The traditional two parent family is few and far between, coupled with the lack of morals, the "I want it now", a sense of entitlement. Yet if these young people don't get what they want, when they want it, they have a temper tantrum...an adult size temper tantrum, which usually escalates to and ends in violence. These young people (many, not all) have grown physically but not mentally, emotionally, or intellectually, and will be unable to become mature adults. Examples being huge prison populations, and gangs. Gangs fill a void in people and usually the emotionally weak gravitate toward them to fill a need missing since childhood. Next stop....prison. When they get out, who will hire them? The circle of crime continues.

Joe Plourde

11:18 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I think the correlation between race and crime statistics is not inherent to the race itself genetically - but because the race is more likely exposed to a higher crime rate due to surrounding societal issues. So the "racist" inferences about blacks being involved in more crime statistically per 100 citizens is true - but it is caused by societal conditions which are not easily remedied for our black and other nonwhite citizens. As a white male in his 50s, I have seen bad things in ALL walks of life, ALL socioeconomic classes, and ALL races and ethnicities. I have also seen lots of good things as well - for example - one time when I was attacked riding a bicycle through Watts (I was lost and new to CA) it was young black men that saved my life... Don't judge the race as if one is inferior to the other - judge the conditions the race is exposed to and the answers began to become obvious I believe.

CSR

11:23 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Brutality is not a monopoly of any race, can you say nazi, crusaders, Aztecs? It is a human trait. From "white to black and everything in between" Was the native people of this country who went to Europe to kill and take the land by force? Does anyone ever sit and think that we get a lot more flies with a drop of honey than a gallon of vinegar? Love and kindness not hate and crime will heal this nation.

Angel

11:33 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I read every single comment on this board before commenting and the onl racist remarks were the ones mentioning Africa or 'go back where you came from'. The rest of the comments (other than a few who think calling other posters names or cussing to get the point across) were a mixture of fact and educated opinion. I have had the opportunity to live in 5 different states in America and I can tell you from personal experience there was never a time looking for a home where I wasn't saddened to find out that the most beautiful homes were in the worse neighborhoods. Run down, crime ridden and a mostly black population. Also I have had the personal experience of getting to move so many times because we were a military family. Those of you mentioning education, street living, broken or non existant families, and government money without having to work for it as reasons there is more black crime (btw most black crime is black on black crime) are right on. The militart is full of black men and women who are happy, educated, willing to work hard, have intact families and live somewhere other than substandard, crime ridden neighborhoods. Racist remarks talking about 'go back to where you came from' is ridiculous because unless you are Native American Indian you aren't in the 'right place' either. Please educate yourselves before responding so ignorantly. It doesn't help your argument when what you say doesn't hold water.

Frank Moore

11:52 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Everyone stop. Each of you knows what is in your hearts when you write your comments. Hate, love, change, concerns or reason. Whatever your motive is to share your view, no one else will change your mind. You believe what you believe and you will find reason to bolster your case. Just remember. We are all here together. Not one single group is going anywhere, based on how another group feels about them. We can only be responsible for our own actions and as such we live or die by them. There is enough evil amongst us all to share. It should be amongst US all that we resist it. Why should we tear ourselves apart for the evils of an individual?

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Thomas Suffield

11:59 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Stop being so ignorant Frank Moore, its not an individual, its a majority. Look at the satistics! See how many blacks to whites or blacks to any race in prison! Look at the black population in general! Satistics say 1 in 3 blacks are in prison and 3 in 5 will go to prison and lastly 2 in 5 will spend their lives in prison. Stop being so typical of the white people putting up your facade of ignorace to the truth. Look it up....

Thomas Suffield

11:53 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

You love them so much then I challange you to walk in the hood tonight and invite a handful of these young blacks to your home for dinner and hang out with your young daughter. Bet you hid all your valuables and chassity belt your teen daughter. Your typical and fake, of trying not to be a racist. For me, Im not racist one bit and to prove it I have a black and white tv set in my basement...

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Angel

1:20 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I would invite them to my home. Living in 'the hood' doesn't mean you are a criminal. It means you live in a 'neighborhood'. My daughter has many friends boys and girls who are black skinned (NONE from AFRICA). My son who is severly disabled went to a wonderful school 'in the hood' because of its superior special eduation program headed and taught by two wonderful black skinned teachers. My son was the only white skinned child in the class. Also, btw, 'go back to where you came from' is a most ridiculous statement as YOUR family didn't 'come from here' either. My husbands did (he is Native American) and he would like to invite you to stay, racist comments and hatred included. Racist is the lowest form of small and usually has no basis other than ignorance. I am sorry for you.

kenneth willis

12:03 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Unfortunately racism will always be around because some azzes think that skin color gives them privilge and makes them better than others. So instead of trying to help work on society's problems they want to cast and asign blame to others to make themselves seem better. MURDERS, RAPIST, PEDIOPHILES come in all races so what's the big deal about who does the most? Children with 2 parents growup to kill rape and murder just as single parent children do so theres no difference as to what race you are. The idiots who post their hatred on these boards no doubt do nothing to help society work on these problems but sit behind their computers in a pathetic attempt to make themselves believe they are better than others. I'm sure if you were to ask them how they contribute they would come up with the same lame azz excuse that I've heard before " I don't commit crimes" please. I don't commit crimes either but I do take it a step further by trying to educate, by trying to help, by trying to prevent when and where ever I can so we can have less problems in this world that we live in. Belive it or not, those that try and use stats to down others are worse than the people who make up the statistics because it just shows that their live are inconsequntial. To the posters, Sharon Hughes, Earl Byrd, mama2fourgirls and I appreciate and applaude and thank you for the things you had to say.

LizSobelColumbus@aol.com

12:05 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

what is required is to create jobs . what is required is for people to start using birth control . birth control is free . if you cant feed em dont breed em . what is required is for people to get the common sense to know that kids and cannot grow up in a single parent household . finally what is required is for people to get the common sense to keep their legs shut and for the young men to stop screwing anything that walks . morals people is a good thing .

Mike Johnson

12:10 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

you white people really need to get a life outside of hiding behind the internet making racist jokes. Yah a black guy killed a chick, now how many white people going around killing their wives/daughter/sons

how many black people have been in the news (recently) eating other people. FYI nigger is a ignorant person, nothing is more ignorant than thinking your the superior race because you inslaved people of other races. That's ignorant. White people do more crimes than black people, but black people just get reported more. Stop hiding behind the computer if you white people are so fucking brave, walk up to a black person and call him nigger in person, and if you survive tell me what happened

Earl Byrd

12:21 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

you people with so much hated, black or white are the problem not the solution. you haters need to take a serious look at your own selves. Be part of the solution not part of the problem......to get back to the story may the Young girl rest in peace and the Lord God comfort this Family greving the loss of a Loved one...

Ralph McGraw

12:33 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Paula Larson, Yes you are correct that it takes two to tangle. My comment was staying with the article on males. And to reply to a few others. It is more than the black person. There are white, brown, yellow and red people just as bad. To aid these groups should be reviewed very seriously. But our government is so entangled it will take the American public to start standing up and directing those people. I don't mean in comment sections such as this. Groups start getting together to make changes. Start within your own neighborhood and grow from there. This will take years but we have to start somewheres. Just don't get caughtup in the type of demonstrations that happened on Wall Street. You lose credibility when it starts turning into a camp for homeless.

karen

12:56 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Do any of the commenters know that unless your mind changes, nothing changes?

Sam Mort

12:58 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Every once in a while you'll get someone who was raised in a good home by a loving family go bad. But, in most instances the majority of criminals usually come from dysfuctional familes. There's an old saying .... it all starts in the home and being raised right.

zott

12:59 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

SCUM BREEDS SCUM>>>zott

Frank Moore

1:01 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Thomas Suffield. Thank you for taking the time and proving my point, you bit. Come on Tom, you know what is in your heart and you know what it is that you are dying to say. You are happy about this because it allows you to share your agenda. Do you care? probably not. Do you want change? Probably not. Do you love? Probably not. Do you hate? Probably.

Ignorance? Yes, there is ignorance, but don't blame me or others for who you are. Like I said, no one is going to change your mind. You know what you believe, you just don't have the courage to say it directly so you play in the land of statistics. Be an adult and say it without mixing words. Say it straight up, don't be a coward.

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Thomas Suffield

1:53 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Not trying to sound cowardly Earl in fact Im a straight up hater! I mean racist as they come. Now I wasnt born this way like Gay people are but Im a product of the society in which we live in. Once you experiance the violence my family has by blacks( my 83 yr old grandmother tied up raped as my aunt was at the same time) by 3 young black men and beaten almost to death then you can see my points of view. BTW my grandmother is STILL in a facility because of the beating and my aunt is on lots of meds. They caught these men and they all laughed in court at our faces and so did their families but when the judge sentenced them to 80 years in prison and no parole for 45 years they were not laughing then. Their families were crying as we chuckeled all the way home.....

john bruno

1:04 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

This guy looks like he put his fingers into an electrical socket.

If he did what he did to my daughter, he'd be dead in 6 months.

Angel

1:09 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Thomas Suffield. I am sorry that happened to your family and you have a right to be angry. However when a crime is commited on one of your family members but a white person will you start calling all of them crackers and hating on them the way you hate on the black skin color? It makes very little sense that your agenda is against a GROUP of people based on color when a FEW idiots caused harm to your family. I do really wonder if it would have given you reason to hate your OWN race if that happened to have been the color of the skin of the criminals who hurt your family? Please answer that.

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Thomas Suffield

2:06 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Well the answer is the same Angel, I was a victom of a armed robbery and shot point blank in the temple. I survived this and made sure this man got what he deserverd. Itsa little hard to compare the two but the crime against my grand mother wasnt for money it was for the rape and torture, no valuables were taken. It was a hate crime though never called that. The robbery against me was for money to buy heroin by a junkie. I was shot because I fought back. So apples to oranges its differant. Now if white men did that to my grandmother then I honestly could not tell you how I feel. Put it like this, I trust blacks 0% and whites about 10%.....

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Angel

2:29 am on Monday, January 16, 2012

Thomas. I am sorry you have had such a life full of sorrow at the hands of other people. I know what that feels like too. I have a severly disabled adult child who will never walk, talk or feed himself because of a doctor who didn't know what they were doing. I also have a husband who is permenantly brain damaged and lost his hearing because of stupid people who didn't give a damn. I live with it every day. However, I can't help but think that if you put your anger to better use, as you really dont seem to be unintelligent, you might feel better inside. It wouldn't be to make anyone else 'feel better' about your opinions, it would be to allow yourself a better place in life. Think about it. You also don't have to trust or forgive to move on to a better place in your own life.

T Hunter

1:15 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

The Bible states that there is nothing new under the sun. Crime, disease, hatred, racism.. It predates us all. The answer is Jesus!! This world and its system has already been judged. And through the blood of Jesus, those who choose Him, have been deemed righteous. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. All races and both genders. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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Thomas Suffield

2:08 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Dont drag the God guy into this, there is no such person....Wake up! If you believe then he should of been back by now.

Angel

1:30 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Thomas Suffield. In response to one of your silly posts. I would invite them (your post was about inviting a black man from the 'hood') to my home. Living in 'the hood' doesn't mean you are a criminal. It means you live in a 'neighborhood'. My daughter has many friends boys and girls who are black skinned (NONE from AFRICA). My son who is severly disabled went to a wonderful school 'in the hood' because of its superior special eduation program headed and taught by two wonderful black skinned teachers. My son was the only white skinned child in the class. Also, btw, 'go back to where you came from' is a most ridiculous statement as YOUR family didn't 'come from here' either. My husbands did (he is Native American) and he would like to invite you to stay, racist comments and hatred included. Racist is the lowest form of small and usually has no basis other than ignorance. I am sorry for you.

Janie

1:38 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I just researched the federal data base for crimes in 2009 & 2010 in America. Whites made up 67.2% of Americans, Hispanics were 14.8%, Blacks were 12.1%, Asians were 4.5%, and Native Americans & Pacific Islanders & Alaskan Native Americans were 1.4%. This is for all crimes, both state and federal combined. For some reason White and Hispanic were contained as one statistic, showing 83% of population were responsible for 68% of crime (although statisics showed Hispanics committed 40% of those crimes and 72% of Hispanic Federal crimes were committed by illegal aliens; strange way to break statistics down). Blacks, comprising 12.1% of population, committed 28% of crimes. Blacks committed 52.2% of murders and aggravated assaults and Whites & Hispanics combined committed 45.8% of murder and aggravated assaults. Blacks between 18 and 30 yrs old had 7 times the number with prison records than whites & Hispanics of the same age. That means among 12.1% of Americans, adults committed 52% of the crimes.

Janie

1:42 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Sorry, it didn't all print. Should have read: That means among 12.1% of Americans, the adults committed 52% of the crimes of murder and aggravated assault.

john bruno

1:46 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

And the 12.1% committing 52% of all violent crimes are ANIMALS and we should not work or waste time on rehabilitation.

If they get the death penalty and the death penalty is used, then you are certain that this same ANIMAL won't harm another civil person.

Janie

1:55 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Statistics are just that. Babies don't get to put an order in for eye, hair, or skin color. Adults do get to make choices in life and are responsible for those choices and the results of those choices. My husband was (deceased) Puerto Rican and half of my family (he had 8 sisters, he was only boy, the baby) including those by marraige are Puerto Rican, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Black, and Mexican (and one Norwegian brother-in-law) while all four of my grandparents are Irish (from Ireland). My husband's immediate family are the nicest, most honest, hardest working, do anything to help a neighbor or family member I have ever known. I thought my family were honest, hard workers until I met his family 40 some years ago. Don't judge people by skin color but by their actions.

john bruno

2:02 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

If you're 6'4" tall and 330 pounds, you are MORBIDLY OBESE.

You should get off of the internet and head right to the doctors' office tomorrow morning...or Tuesday if they are not open tomorrow because of MLK Holiday.

You are a ticking, health, time bomb!

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Thomas Suffield

2:26 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

On the contrary, Im very healthy. I train police officers in hand to hand combat. I travel all over united states doing this and meet various people who would confer to my comments. People in very high places including many Judges and state procecuters. I would love to tell you the many incognito haters out there in very high places in office such as recently on tv Rick Santoriam who is running for presidency. But you all should know that or are you too playing blind man to the real truth? Everyone is racist in some shape or form, just some are not afraid to tell it like it is. But back to the girl shot, I hope he gets what he deserves.....

Jenny

2:13 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Some people need to further educate themselves before posting a comment. It is ridiculous that they take shots at others and then display their own lack of education by posting not only ignorant but mispelled posts. Go back to school and learn the difference between "your" and "you're" ignorant racists!!

Thomas Suffield

2:16 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Satistics look great on paper but I encourage you to go to your local D.O.C and do a head count please and then post your numbers.....

Jenny

2:35 pm on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I'm hurt or should I say, Im hurt. You got another chance at life, do yourself a favor and do something productive with what is left with your life...enjoy it!! Good Luck!

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Thomas Suffield

10:44 am on Monday, January 16, 2012

Thank you Jenny for your nice comment and you too Angel, hate is an awful thing to live with. I wish there was a way to harnis it and use it productivly and I've tried to no avail. I seem to channel it and focus on one thing and it's race issues. Its not like it is an everyday thing but when it comes up, I want to ride it out. I get upset with blacks using it when its convienant for them. The crimes against my family wasn't considered a hate crime but if the tables were turned it would of made world wide news with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in the mix of it. So I am sure you can confer with me on that because it wasn't a robbery but just for the fun and torture of my grandmother and aunt. So whenever I get into race issues all I see is red. I hope you understand my thoughts. Again its not a disease but can be contagious, dont feel sorry for me or others who agree with me. We choose to be this way brought on by the hate from others.

Frank Moore

6:29 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Oh Tommy Boy please stop writing. lol

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Péralte Paul

8:10 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Thomas Suffield: I've deleted your last comment for the racial slur.

Frank Moore

10:53 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Part I
Yes Oh Tommy Boy, I heard about the grandmother attack and I heard about a woman in Florida killing her kid and a little thing called Columbine. I heard how two white men tied a black man to a bumper and dragged him to death. I heard of a man named Dr. King who was shot for wanting better for not just blacks, but for everyone. I heard of US soldiers killing native Americans for their land. I heard of white officers beating another man named King. I heard about a white man being pulled from his truck and beaten because of a verdict. I heard about an Hispanic Marine, on leave in California, who shot and killed a white officer for no reason. A Black State Trooper in SC shot on the first day of the year after stopping a white couple. Oh, how about the white Philly Police Officer shot by a black man who was the son of a Philly Officer. So here is my question Oh Tommy Boy. What is your point? Where is your misguided hatred towards your own or towards everyone? Why only minorities? All this stuff is called crime and it stinks that decent people must deal with it. The only thing you want to do Oh Tommy Boy is justify your hatred towards black through incidents involving blacks.

Frank Moore

10:54 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Part II
The fact is you merely hate only to hate. There is nothing new about you or your hatred. Tommy Boy, you don't need a story to hate blacks, you just hate them. You are a slave to your own mind, as well as me, because I know how you think. In other words Oh Tommy Boy, I am your master and I own you, you silly child. Nothing anyone says or writes will change your thinking, but just remember what you say and write, no one believes. You will always be looked upon as a small man and of no worth to society. Just like you view other ye will be viewed. Sorry Oh Tommy Boy, it’s the way it is. Good luck finding yourself.

Frank Moore

11:12 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

PS
Also this guy name Hitler did some really bad stuff back in the 20's, 30's and 40's. You may have read about it. I think he was white also. Think "Oh Tommy Boy" before you write your thoughts. Some of us out here, other than yourself, know history and current events. Never believe you are the smartest thing going, and yes I await your rebuttal. Oh, rebuttal, here, means your counter reply or argument to my postings. Did that make things easier? Because we all know how no one argues gooder than you. That was sarcasm. Sorry I could not resist.

Frank Moore

11:17 pm on Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Damn it, insignificant was the word I was looking for to describe you Oh Tommy Boy. Oh well, next time.

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Angel

1:08 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012

First off being sarcastic and condescending toward Thomas doesn't make you look any better than you think he is. You, Frank, are the only one arguing with yourself now for the better part of 4 posts yet you go on and on. Thomas DID mention in a post to me that he doesn't know how he would feel if white men would have been the perpetrators in the crimes against his family, and that he doesn't trust white people much more than black people. I do think he is mixed up and is obviously channeling his hate and anger at a group of people rather than the actual criminals, but you seem to be hell bent on being just as nasty ot him as you claim him to be to blacks. You also seem to have some misguided anger. Thomas isn't your punching bag, nor is he your 'pet' to kick around verbally. He has his views, albeit skewed, and you don't even seem to have a view other than to knock Thomas around. Why not give it a rest? At the very least, it is getting tedious and at the very most, your posts aren't very well thought out and don't make for much of a point other than the obvious dislike for someone you don't know on the other end of a computer screen.

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Thomas Suffield

9:28 am on Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Wow Frank Moore, if it were not for me assuming you were white I would now put you as a man of color who hates racist and might as well say gays too, not that I am. I'm betting your a man of mixed race maybe between white and black? But anyhow your the one confused and acting like a really mixed up child. Again I said what I said. Im a product of the atmosphere I grew up in and dealt with on a daily bases. Me being this doesn't let me discriminate against any certain race. Deep seeded in every person no matter what race is a form of hate against people of color,gays lesbians and the list goes on. I unlike most choose to voice mine when an occaision comes when there is violence involved against whites by blacks. That is my forte as you would say. Now some folks go off on violence on gays or voilence on blacks by radical rednecks like the James Byrd inncident in Texas, I was there for that. Pretty ugly thing too, and it was a long time before a black man jumped in a truck to sell dope to 2 white boys sleeved in swaticas and other hate symbles, duh??? But anyhow hate and racisim is in each and everyone of us some choose to leave it and some choose to express it. Angel thanks hun for your support and your right on the money about me. Your comments are welcomed and inspiring. In short I grew up in the south, me and my family were victoms of many crimes by black people so really thats why I am what I am towards one certain race. Now albiet I can hate equally when neccassary. LOL

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